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Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

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Re: Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

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That is awesome - now we also need to kill metadata collection. Is this feasible? Oh and off-the-record was there on Hangouts/Gtalk before - I used it but the chats were replicated across clients (e.g. Pidgin vs gmail.com) - so not really off-the-record (i.e. they lied).

OWS apparently partners with NSA with metadata collection :>

Re: Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

#13

That is awesome - now we also need to kill metadata collection. Is this feasible? Oh and off-the-record was there on Hangouts/Gtalk before - I used it but the chats were replicated across clients (e.g. Pidgin vs gmail.com) - so not really off-the-record (i.e. they lied).

It's "Off The Record" in that they claimed not to store history. As I understand this is completely unrelated to the OTR encryption system.

Re: Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

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post #11

That is awesome - now we also need to kill metadata collection. Is this feasible? Oh and off-the-record was there on Hangouts/Gtalk before - I used it but the chats were replicated across clients (e.g. Pidgin vs gmail.com) - so not really off-the-record (i.e. they lied).

OWS apparently partners with NSA with metadata collection :>

Is this sarcasm of some kind? Is there some joke in here about Whisper Systems vs. Open Whisper Systems?

This comment seems baseless and unfounded at best. Is there context I am missing?

Re: Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

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What I'm curious about, and think would be really neat, is if one could take advantage of the shared Signal Protocol to send messages cross-platform. Specifically, sending an encrypted message to a Whatsapp user from Allo. Or to a Signal user from Whatsapp. Or any combination/permutation really.

Re: Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

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This is fantastic news. The two largest messaging platforms on the Internet will both be using Signal protocol. I could ask for more: E2E could be the default for Allo, and it isn't. That's not great. But the E2E you get when you ask for it will apparently be best-in-class.

Uh, where are you defining Allo as one of the largest messaging platforms on the internet? It literally just launched. It might do well, but it could also easily be a flop (as many other social initiatives from Google have been). Either way it's a long ways from catching up to WeChat, Viber, or even Facebook Messenger.

It hasn't even launched yet; won't be out until later this Summer.

Re: Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

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post #15

What I'm curious about, and think would be really neat, is if one could take advantage of the shared Signal Protocol to send messages cross-platform. Specifically, sending an encrypted message to a Whatsapp user from Allo. Or to a Signal user from Whatsapp. Or any combination/permutation really.

Moxie's on the record as being opposed to federated services.

https://whispersystems.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/

Re: Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

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post #15

What I'm curious about, and think would be really neat, is if one could take advantage of the shared Signal Protocol to send messages cross-platform. Specifically, sending an encrypted message to a Whatsapp user from Allo. Or to a Signal user from Whatsapp. Or any combination/permutation really.

Moxie's on the record as being opposed to federated services. https://whispersystems.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/

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Re: Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end Encryption for Allo

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post #2

This is fantastic news. The two largest messaging platforms on the Internet will both be using Signal protocol. I could ask for more: E2E could be the default for Allo, and it isn't. That's not great. But the E2E you get when you ask for it will apparently be best-in-class.

I guess it's not e2e in all chats for the @google assistant to be able to be part of the conversation. If it would be part of the e2e conversation you would be sharing all your messages with google anyways, kind of defeating the purpose. At least they offer "incognito" chats. I think that's a fair compromise in the light of Allo being focused on the Assistant & Smart Replies.

The smart replies thing creeps me out. I already take swiftkey suggestions on how I talk sometimes. This just takes it to a whole other level where it's not even you writing the suggestions anymore.
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