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Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google seems to have a lot of internal silos. The same can be observed in (historic?) Microsoft, current IBM, and other corporations. Perhaps the split into Alphabet with Google, et al. as subsidiaries will help? But I doubt it. Anyways, my point is: Someone has a good idea, they implement it, it reaches the point where it's not easily integrated into another product. Instead of strong corporate leadership directing…

It seems like someone said, "why don't we have a WhatsApp competitor?" and so Bob and Steve made it without thinking about all the different messaging applications already under the Google brand.

Pretty much. Which, on its own, isn't a bad thing. A lot of innovation can happen that way. But see Wave, Talk, Hangouts, Spaces, Allo, G+ [0]: Many communication apps, some mobile, some defunct. They've each added something, they've each lost something.

G+ introduced "Circles". I really liked that concept, it was a smooth way to organize the people I wanted to communicate with. Post a message, only my gaming buddies could see it. Post another, friends and family (and most gaming buddies fell under friends) could see it. And it was under my control and invisible to other users.

Talk: Adds nothing, it's just another messenger.

Hangouts: ... video and audio chat. Screen sharing.

Spaces: Seems like a more socially oriented Wave?

Wave: Neat, got stuck in performance hell and was hard to sell. The invite system didn't help. Collaborative documents. Integrated chat bots with the document much like this @google thing in Allo seems to be.

Allo: Talk - gmail account + (end-to-end encryption OR @google chatbot). It's WhatsApp meets part of Wave meets Google Talk.

Take G+, integrate Spaces into that. Make Hangouts part of that. Make Allo a part of Hangouts. Move Hangouts to end-to-end encryption model (broken with @google chatbot present, but not if you leave it out).

[0] I'm excluding GMail because it, at least, has a fairly well established place on its own and is, fundamentally, an email platform. The accounts are tied to the other services, but GMail is easily its own standalone product with a very large user base.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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I've not watched the keynote yet but I'm hopeful the announcement of Home will also come with opening up of Google Now's voice search similar to Alexa. I really want to like Google Now but it's just so limited at the moment - let me control Spotify, Hue bulbs, and my TV with it please!

Oh, and let me address it with something other than "OK, Google". Let me name it, or set the trigger phrase, or do an interpretive dance. Anything but that awful phrase.

I might be totally wrong about this, but I think the reason "OK Google" or "Hey Alexa" are immutable phrases is because the listening for them is implemented via an ASIC chip at the hardware level, in order to save on battery life. That is, instead of a software based `while(listening) {...}`, an actual hardware component looks for the correct wave forms from the microphone output.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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"Android Instant Apps" -> aka web hijacker

AKA the return of plugins! to be fair it's the most interesting announce in the whole conference so far.

By the way, this is clearly a first step for the merging of ChromeOS and Android. It is also possible that these "apps" will have limited access to Android APIs. In fact, I'd like to see exactly that in my Chrome browser on my desktop just to give it a try.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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In my humble opinion Google isn't solving new problems anymore. They created great company thanks to solving very important problem: people couldn't find right things on the Internet. Now it is all about ads and reducing number of taps required to order a pizza. The keynote is just boring.

Yea - I hear ya. Self driving cars, conversational AIs, VR hardware - same old same old.

Self driving cars, sure. A world changing project. The rest, I couldn't be more bored. Thanks for saving me from typing "cute dog". Ughh.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Android Security: What happened to Google? I remember back in the days when Apple said that they will reviewed all the apps before they appear on the App Stores. Now it looks reviewing apps before release is not cool anymore.

I don't think Google ever manually reviewed, they've been adding more automated checks for a while though. And I think Apple still manually review.

They have been for over a year apparently

http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/17/app-submissions-on-google-p...

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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[Google announces Home, an Echo competitor] This seems cool. Echo is pretty neat but this space could use some competition. ["available later this year"] Ah, so it's doomed. Those four words are a death sentence, particularly from Google's hardware department.

I don't understand why anyone would want to have such a device in their home. How long before they start data mining conversations for better ad targeting? What if a state actor gets access to such devices? Is no one worried at all?

I want the device very much. But definitely not one that sends my voice to the cloud. Not one I can't tweak at all.
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