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Re: Google Home

#71

Haha, no thank you. i don't want google to listen to everything I say in my house. Next thing you know it's going to tell me is "Smith! Put more effort in those crunches!".

You say that like its a bad thing. I busted my back yesterday at the gym with improper form on a dead lift. If I had some kind of assistant watching me to correct my form then I would not be eating pain killers now trying to get an appointment to see a doctor all while having tingling sensations in my feet.

Re: Google Home

#72
post #28

A company that makes money by collecting and selling access to personal information about people is offering to put a microphone in your home. If you need a product like this, for the sake of your privacy, buy an Echo.

Lets stop this nonsense. They don't sell access to your personal information. There is nowhere that I can buy your personal information from google. What they sell is access to your attention. When advertising, I'm looking for people that match these characteristics, and what I'm purchasing is the possibility to show you an ad if you match certain criteria.

They sell the ability to use your data, not to access/see/download it. I can use all the data for ad targeting, but in no way I can actually see it.

Advertisers buy the attention, Publishers sell it. Google is the intermediary that connects the right advertiser to the right publishers, and charges x%.

Re: Google Home

#73
post #19

When I was younger, I dreamed of something like this. Voice control for my home! A Star Trek computer that I can interact with conversationally! I just say what I want and it happens! Now, I just see an internet-connected microphone in a software black box which I can only interpret as a giant frickin' security liability. I want this, but unless it's open source top-to-bottom, I won't ever actually put one in my home…

I'm not comfortable with this either, but I recognize it's hypocritical-- after all, smartphones have microphones AND camera and are internet-connected running proprietary software.

Re: Google Home

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but bear in mind that Google is a PRISM partner, whereas Amazon is not. The NSA will likely record every sound from your house, if you own this. Edit: Downvoters, please educate me on where I am wrong. Thanks.

I personally think this is ignorant. Its already been proven several times that if the government wants access to a companies data they will get it. The shutdown of Lavabit has proven this. Marissa Mayer said explicitly thats its treason to not go along with the NSA. http://www.businessinsider.com/lavabit-founder-letter-2014-5 http://www.businessinsider.com/marissa-mayer-its-treason-to-...

There is a large difference between being a PRISM partner( broad hoovering of all data )and a party to a narrowly-scoped warrant or subpoena, as Amazon would be.

Meyer would do well to cite the specific statute that makes noncompliance into a charge of treason. Otherwise she's clearly lying to spin the actions of Yahoo for PR points.

Re: Google Home

#75

Competition against Amazon Echo is always positive for consumers.

Yes, except I trust Google FAR less than I trust Amazon--simply because Google has permeated in many more facets of my digital life (gdocs, gmail, chrome, maps, search, etc). Amazon just has my shopping history.

Unless you use Amazon video, music, or AWS.

Re: Google Home

#77
post #28

A company that makes money by collecting and selling access to personal information about people is offering to put a microphone in your home. If you need a product like this, for the sake of your privacy, buy an Echo.

Lets stop this nonsense. They don't sell access to your personal information. There is nowhere that I can buy your personal information from google. What they sell is access to your attention. When advertising, I'm looking for people that match these characteristics, and what I'm purchasing is the possibility to show you an ad if you match certain criteria.

That doesn't mean that they don't collect that information, however. They collect it, and then they use it to target ads at you.

A simple, plausible way this might invade your privacy in a meaningful way is that your home conversations will start being factored into the ads that your shown. Knowing this about Google, I can infer based on the ads shown to you, to some extent, what you are talking about in private.

Granted, the information is incomplete, and it is a noisy signal, but it is a signal nonetheless.

Re: Google Home

#78
Voice controlled computer interactivity doesn't appeal to me, and double unappealing is the skynet factor to the whole thing.

Home automation doesn't need nor should it require signing over your privacy.

Re: Google Home

#79
post #28

A company that makes money by collecting and selling access to personal information about people is offering to put a microphone in your home. If you need a product like this, for the sake of your privacy, buy an Echo.

Lets stop this nonsense. They don't sell access to your personal information. There is nowhere that I can buy your personal information from google. What they sell is access to your attention. When advertising, I'm looking for people that match these characteristics, and what I'm purchasing is the possibility to show you an ad if you match certain criteria.

Access to my attention, you say?

And now they want to put a speaker and a microphone under their control in my home, you say?

Yeah, let's stop this nonsense.

Re: Google Home

#80
post #8

You too can bring a slice of 1984 into your home with this lovely crafted listening device!

Just like your phone and computer, which you use almost all day and have a microphone, internet connection, and backdoors.
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