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Re: Google Home

#41

Post by DarkContinent »

bbunqq wrote: post #8

You too can bring a slice of 1984 into your home with this lovely crafted listening device!

The difference between this product and 1984 is that we choose to install Google home into our places of residence for our own convenience. We are not forced into installing said software.

That having been said, if Google chooses to release the data to the government, it has an obligation to tell us about that or it will be behaving unethically. As matters stand, however, this is just a new technology with pros and cons.

Re: Google Home

#42

Post by koolba »

RFP - Request For Project

1. Train Google Home to recognize Amazon Echo's voice as its owner.

2. Train Amazon Echo to recognize Siri's voice as its owner

3. Train Siri to recognize Google Home's voice as its owner

4. Kick start some kind of endless loop between the three of them.

Re: Google Home

#43

Post by angryasian »

demian0311 wrote: post #37
izolate wrote: post #6

Looks like something that should've been under the Nest brand. Whatever happened to that?

You're right. When I got the Nest products I assumed Google would foster integration with them. If I can't raise my Nest thermometer by voice with this then that'll be Google training me once again to not invest in their platforms.

During the presentation they specifically mentioned integration with Nest and other at home integrations

Re: Google Home

#44

Post by harigov »

martincmartin wrote: post #31
pbnjay wrote: post #5

I find it odd that Google is going to take so long to get this out the door - "later this year" seems like ages. Did they start on the hardware that late? Amazon has what, 6 months to get more competitive on the search/trivia front? or this is going to kill it.

The hardware for this is the easiest part. Understanding voice that's far from the microphone (sound gets muffled, echos off walls, etc.), with other sounds in the background, is significantly harder than understanding speech near the microphone.

Didn't they already solved that problem for implementing "OK Google"?

Re: Google Home

#45

Post by vox_mollis »

profmonocle wrote: post #33
vox_mollis wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but bear in mind that Google is a PRISM partner, whereas Amazon is not. The NSA will likely record every sound from your house, if you own this. Edit: Downvoters, please educate me on where I am wrong. Thanks.

> The NSA will likely record every sound from your house, if you own this. It would be very easy to detect something fishy was going on. Even if the device was locked down and the connection was encrypted, they couldn't hide it if the device was uploading large volumes of data with no explanation.

There is a very simple out, here. Google could simply claim that they do all audio processing in the cloud. They wouldn't need to hide it.

Re: Google Home

#46

Post by hellbanner »

profmonocle wrote: post #33
vox_mollis wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but bear in mind that Google is a PRISM partner, whereas Amazon is not. The NSA will likely record every sound from your house, if you own this. Edit: Downvoters, please educate me on where I am wrong. Thanks.

> The NSA will likely record every sound from your house, if you own this. It would be very easy to detect something fishy was going on. Even if the device was locked down and the connection was encrypted, they couldn't hide it if the device was uploading large volumes of data with no explanation.

Eh, the NSA can get it from Google instead of bothering with each individual device.

Re: Google Home

#47

Post by ricardobeat »

profmonocle wrote: post #33
vox_mollis wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but bear in mind that Google is a PRISM partner, whereas Amazon is not. The NSA will likely record every sound from your house, if you own this. Edit: Downvoters, please educate me on where I am wrong. Thanks.

> The NSA will likely record every sound from your house, if you own this. It would be very easy to detect something fishy was going on. Even if the device was locked down and the connection was encrypted, they couldn't hide it if the device was uploading large volumes of data with no explanation.

You don't need to upload large volumes of data for voice recognition (see Siri), and if you're only looking for specific keywords/sentences you can trickle the data over time.

Re: Google Home

#48

Post by angryasian »

vox_mollis wrote: post #11
free2rhyme214 wrote: post #10

Competition against Amazon Echo is always positive for consumers.

Perhaps, but bear in mind that Google is a PRISM partner, whereas Amazon is not. The NSA will likely record every sound from your house, if you own this. Edit: Downvoters, please educate me on where I am wrong. Thanks.

I personally think this is ignorant. Its already been proven several times that if the government wants access to a companies data they will get it. The shutdown of Lavabit has proven this. Marissa Mayer said explicitly thats its treason to not go along with the NSA.

http://www.businessinsider.com/lavabit-founder-letter-2014-5

http://www.businessinsider.com/marissa-mayer-its-treason-to-...

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