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Computer glitch has led to incorrect advice on statins

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Re: Computer glitch has led to incorrect advice on statins

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post #5

"glitch" is such an awful, handwavey word. Please, describe the cause in a more intelligible way than by using this stupid word.

Seriously... It seems like a convenient way for journalists to avoid having to explain how technology works. At the same time I keep technology looking like magic and not science. "Glitch" makes it sound like bugs are caused by cosmic rays or something.

Re: Computer glitch has led to incorrect advice on statins

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Big point. It seems the doctors (As in none????) didn't notice it was making mistakes. All of them, not noticing since 2009. The glitchy program still was better than the doctors knowledge base. I'd pick the program anyday. Imagine the failure rate of the 2/3 who don't use the program.

How about not relying on a Dr. or a program and taking your health care into your own hands? Research and review and ask questions and don't just take w/o questioning the advice either give?

Statins have serious side effects. I would never take them without doing my own research.

EDIT: I don't mean "research" in the scientific sense, but in the "look into it" sense.

Re: Computer glitch has led to incorrect advice on statins

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post #12

Big point. It seems the doctors (As in none????) didn't notice it was making mistakes. All of them, not noticing since 2009. The glitchy program still was better than the doctors knowledge base. I'd pick the program anyday. Imagine the failure rate of the 2/3 who don't use the program.

How about not relying on a Dr. or a program and taking your health care into your own hands? Research and review and ask questions and don't just take w/o questioning the advice either give? Statins have serious side effects. I would never take them without doing my own research. EDIT: I don't mean "research" in the scientific sense, but in the "look into it" sense.

This method needs to be compared in effectiveness against the above 2 approaches.

Assume I'm a run of the mill dude without a biomedical background. I decide to read up on the current literature relating to statins. After going through these highly technical studies I find a conflict between what the doctor/program is telling me and what I thought I read.

Now what are the odds I'm right and the doctor/program are wrong?

Re: Computer glitch has led to incorrect advice on statins

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about not relying on a Dr. or a program and taking your health care into your own hands? Research and review and ask questions and don't just take w/o questioning the advice either give? Statins have serious side effects. I would never take them without doing my own research. EDIT: I don't mean "research" in the scientific sense, but in the "look into it" sense.

This method needs to be compared in effectiveness against the above 2 approaches. Assume I'm a run of the mill dude without a biomedical background. I decide to read up on the current literature relating to statins. After going through these highly technical studies I find a conflict between what the doctor/program is telling me and what I thought I read. Now what are the odds I'm right and the doctor/program are wro…

High

Re: Computer glitch has led to incorrect advice on statins

#15
post #5

"glitch" is such an awful, handwavey word. Please, describe the cause in a more intelligible way than by using this stupid word.

The program by TPP connects to a medical risk calculator called QRISK2. Apparently they(TPP) have some error in this interface.

Re: Computer glitch has led to incorrect advice on statins

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post #16

Hopefully someone will run the numbers from this. Effectively it is a large scale test of outcomes for patients with equal risk factors, some treated with statins and some untreated.

I had the exact same thought--it's unfortunate that this happened, but some good might come of it as a randomized control trial...

Re: Computer glitch has led to incorrect advice on statins

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about not relying on a Dr. or a program and taking your health care into your own hands? Research and review and ask questions and don't just take w/o questioning the advice either give? Statins have serious side effects. I would never take them without doing my own research. EDIT: I don't mean "research" in the scientific sense, but in the "look into it" sense.

This method needs to be compared in effectiveness against the above 2 approaches. Assume I'm a run of the mill dude without a biomedical background. I decide to read up on the current literature relating to statins. After going through these highly technical studies I find a conflict between what the doctor/program is telling me and what I thought I read. Now what are the odds I'm right and the doctor/program are wro…

You have the great advantage of all of the information. That clear advantage will greatly benefit you.

EDIT: by "all the information" I mean the sum total of all your health information. Even if you are at an HMO (e.g., Kaiser), not everything is written in your record and not every Dr. will read your entire record.

Also, only you can order a 2nd opinion, based on the facts you know. A Dr. will never order a 2nd opinion. I have literally never heard of this, but if it does happen, it is exceedingly rare.

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