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Re: Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area

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Post by darpa_escapee » Tue, May 17, 2016, 7:53 PM UTC

imaginenore wrote: post #46

maxxxxx wrote: post #2

If that's true we are moving into a scary world pretty much like 1984 where everything you do is monitored all the time. Add voice, face recognition, surveillance drones, cheap data storage and AI to the mix it seems pretty soon everything you do in a public place will be recorded and analyzed. And all this can be done fully automated. I hope people will recognize that some laws need to change. Surveillance makes sen…

You can't have an expectation of privacy in public places. Facial recognition can be beat by a hat + sunglasses (which is the hugest plot hole in Person of Interest, the characters never even attempt to disguise themselves).

You can be identified by body shape and gait. If you've ever been through airport security, a 3D model of your body has been captured. If you have a smartphone, your gait can be recorded.

Re: Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area

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Post by darpa_escapee » Tue, May 17, 2016, 7:59 PM UTC

imaginenore wrote: post #237

gopalv wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you have a database of walking styles? Does anybody? I nearly always walk around with a 3-d accelerometer which can indeed "phone" home. Here's the ML extraction mechanism as explained by a Samsung engineer - http://www.slideshare.net/satnam74/the-fifth-elephant-2013-t...

Yeah but if they have access to your phone, they already know where you are, no need for the overcomplicated accelerometer method.

If it's in a database, then people without access to your phone can still identify you.

Re: Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area

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Post by guiscreenshots » Wed, May 18, 2016, 2:52 AM UTC

pjlegato wrote: post #289

onion2k wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except permanent jobs are frequently made redundant and cease to exist. The original intention may have been for the job to exist forever but things change, and permanent things cease to be so permanent. Much like countries...

As I wrote above, it means that the role is permanent as far as anyone knows . It does not mean that you will permanently be doing that job. It means that, based on all available current information, the job will continue to exist forever. Of course, people can and do make mistakes. The fact that someone chooses to use a word to describe something does not mean that it's necessarily an accurate description. They may…

So then, using your logic, the governments of East Germany and the Soviet Union would, at the time, have been considered permanent, as those governments were expected to last forever as far as anyone knew.