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Hiring Hurdle: Finding Workers Who Can Pass a Drug Test

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Why would an employer want to drug test employees? Do some still believe there is some kind of correlation between (prescription or self-medicated) drug use?

From the article: > In Colorado, “to find a roofer or a painter that can pass a drug test is unheard-of,”

Sure, it makes some sense for a few, select jobs like truck driving. But why would you care what your roofer or painter did last night, as long as the job gets done?

If a prospective customer refused to buy your product unless you could prove no employee used Percocet or Vicodin while working, would you drug test your company for them?

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As the quote from the article says: “most people can’t pass the drug test because they don’t want to pass a drug test.”

I work in manufacturing. We make it easy to pass. Several days from interview to test. That's every place I've been. And as the article suggests, its almost exclusively whites not passing. I figure its a culture thing.

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As the quote from the article says: “most people can’t pass the drug test because they don’t want to pass a drug test.” I work in manufacturing. We make it easy to pass. Several days from interview to test. That's every place I've been. And as the article suggests, its almost exclusively whites not passing. I figure its a culture thing.

'Several days' doesn't sound like enough for a lot of drugs.

Aside from quoting employers complaining about not being able to find employees, I wish the NYT had covered some more on the topic of, does drug testing even meaningfully help with finding better employees? Yes, it may be mandated or legally required of employers in a few cases, but that's far from universal; so are the rest doing it because it works, or because they just assume it works because everyone else has always done it?

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Why would an employer want to drug test employees? Do some still believe there is some kind of correlation between (prescription or self-medicated) drug use? From the article: > In Colorado, “to find a roofer or a painter that can pass a drug test is unheard-of,” Sure, it makes some sense for a few, select jobs like truck driving. But why would you care what your roofer or painter did last night, as long as the job g…

It's a conscientiousness filter (particularly the pre-hire, never again variety).

Also, at one point (perhaps even still) there were regulations on federal contractors above a certain size promoting drug tests.

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If you want a contract, loan, tax benefit or anything else explicit from the federal government or any contractor of the federal government - you have to institute drug screening policies, which are audited.

edit: The implication I am making is that this is literally the only (IMO) good reason to have such a policy.

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Why would an employer want to drug test employees? Do some still believe there is some kind of correlation between (prescription or self-medicated) drug use? From the article: > In Colorado, “to find a roofer or a painter that can pass a drug test is unheard-of,” Sure, it makes some sense for a few, select jobs like truck driving. But why would you care what your roofer or painter did last night, as long as the job g…

    If a prospective customer refused to buy your 
    product unless you could prove no employee used 
    Percocet or Vicodin while working, would you     
    drug test your company for them? 
This is what hundreds and thousands of U.S. government intelligence contractor companies do. Of course for many of the smaller ones the USG is their only customer.

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As the quote from the article says: “most people can’t pass the drug test because they don’t want to pass a drug test.” I work in manufacturing. We make it easy to pass. Several days from interview to test. That's every place I've been. And as the article suggests, its almost exclusively whites not passing. I figure its a culture thing.

> Several days from interview to test

Not enough time to piss clean from Cannabis, but enough for some of the harder drugs.

> And as the article suggests, its almost exclusively whites not passing

Doesn't that make drug tests a racist practice?

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post #8

As the quote from the article says: “most people can’t pass the drug test because they don’t want to pass a drug test.” I work in manufacturing. We make it easy to pass. Several days from interview to test. That's every place I've been. And as the article suggests, its almost exclusively whites not passing. I figure its a culture thing.

> Several days from interview to test Not enough time to piss clean from Cannabis, but enough for some of the harder drugs. > And as the article suggests, its almost exclusively whites not passing Doesn't that make drug tests a racist practice?

No.

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post #8

As the quote from the article says: “most people can’t pass the drug test because they don’t want to pass a drug test.” I work in manufacturing. We make it easy to pass. Several days from interview to test. That's every place I've been. And as the article suggests, its almost exclusively whites not passing. I figure its a culture thing.

> Several days from interview to test Not enough time to piss clean from Cannabis, but enough for some of the harder drugs. > And as the article suggests, its almost exclusively whites not passing Doesn't that make drug tests a racist practice?

It was already racist
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