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Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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Re: Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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post #15

> Unfortunately, you’ve got a lot of police misconduct, but I never thought it would be on this level. [...] You’re innocent until proven guilty. I was guilty until proven innocent. He was investigated, nothing was found, and he was released. He wasn't arrested, charged, taken to jail, let alone "guilty until proven innocent".

He was investigated, nothing was found, and he was released.

That doesn't follow. Why did he need to be released?

Re: Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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post #15

> Unfortunately, you’ve got a lot of police misconduct, but I never thought it would be on this level. [...] You’re innocent until proven guilty. I was guilty until proven innocent. He was investigated, nothing was found, and he was released. He wasn't arrested, charged, taken to jail, let alone "guilty until proven innocent".

+1. He was a suspect. Things didn't check out and the cops let him off without even taking him to the station.

So now whether they had the probable cause to search his computer or not - that is unclear as we obv don't have a full story from the law enforcement side of things. I highly doubt that someone calling the cops and telling them - 'someone on craigslist is selling a laptop that was stolen from me' without any proof would trigger this ordeal.

Re: Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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If this can happen over a stolen laptop, we have given the police too much power, resources and authority, and too little training, education and accountability. They are essentially armed goons for those with property and the right complexion. The people responsible for these actions make upwards of $180k a year and will suffer no repercussions for their actions. Let that sink in.

I generally agree with you and I'm generally very critical of the police and I think they handled this very poorly, but I don't think we know enough to say they shouldn't have been involved at all. If Derek is telling the truth that his stolen laptop with lots of personal information on it has turned his life into a movie then it sounds like there is a lot more to know.

Re: Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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post #10
post #7

What's with pictures of him as a kid? What does that add to the story? Sympathy?

I assume it is to help you empathize with the person the story is about. Some people are interested in the human element of news stories, the photos are for those people.

I suspect they're also for the people who see a black man's face and react untrustingly.

Re: Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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post #4

Pointing a taser at someones neck sounds like incredible lack of professionalism. How long are cops trained there?

To further this: what happens if a Taser is shot close range? I assume the barbs could penetrate the spine. I don't know what would happen to the brain if shocked that close.

Re: Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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post #16
post #5

Why would any police organization spend even 5ms on finding a stolen computer and have the complainant involved in a "sting"?

There are a lot of cities in the US where thefts are being treated by cops as a "meh sorry just call your insurance company.." So many police depts have been trying to do something to turn that mentality around since people are pretty pissed about it.. I had my laptop stolen about 10 years ago and that's exactly what happened.. The cop showed up like 5 hours after it happened and was like "yea good luck!" And catchin…

Same thing happened to me. I had my laptop stolen in Miami while I was there briefly for work. Spent half the day waiting on police and they wouldn't even write up a report for me. Told me to take it up with insurance when I got home. Of course when I got home, the insurance company said they couldn't do anything for me without a police report.

Re: Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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post #5

Why would any police organization spend even 5ms on finding a stolen computer and have the complainant involved in a "sting"?

Yeah, that's pretty unusual. In my experience the police prefer to have the victim as hands-off as possible to avoid further drama. (And the S/N is still printed on the bottom of the case, right?)

Re: Cops Cuffed Me for Selling My Own Mac

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post #21
post #15

> Unfortunately, you’ve got a lot of police misconduct, but I never thought it would be on this level. [...] You’re innocent until proven guilty. I was guilty until proven innocent. He was investigated, nothing was found, and he was released. He wasn't arrested, charged, taken to jail, let alone "guilty until proven innocent".

He was investigated, nothing was found, and he was released. That doesn't follow. Why did he need to be released?

He was detained. Thus he was released after.
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