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Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Re: Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Post by SimeVidas »

distances wrote: post #26
larrik wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I try to switch to Firefox, it just doesn't work as well, and I switch back. I'd rather Firefox over Chrome for philosophical reasons, but I feel like Firefox just isn't there technologically. It's getting better, but they really let it stagnate back in the day.

Can you elaborate on this? I've tried Chromium once and again, but always fall back to Firefox as it feels better to me. Direct reasons are the address bar functionality and better privacy support out of the box, but also some generic feel is somehow just more familiar to me. Firefox does have global freezes on particularly heavy pages due to the single process model. It's rare enough not to bother me much though. As…

Multi-process is being tested in Firefox Beta right now, according to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Schedule.

Re: Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Post by Infinitesimus »

wazoox wrote: post #27
mtgx wrote: post #20

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It did. It dropped off a cliff when Google made Chrome default on Android, though.

BTW I'm using FF on Android too (and it's way better than Chrome, with a true adblocker which is even more important than on the desktop), but since the upgrade to Android 6 applications revert to the stock Android browser without any option to select FF instead, grrrr...

You'll have to clear chrome from your defaults and set FF as the default. One of the "features" in 6.0 (I think) is removing the ability to let an application handle an intent "Just Once". Instead, whatever you choose the first time will be the default. It's a very very annoying thing for the (likely very few) of us who like using multiple apps for the same thing

Re: Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Post by vthallam »

distances wrote: post #26
larrik wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I try to switch to Firefox, it just doesn't work as well, and I switch back. I'd rather Firefox over Chrome for philosophical reasons, but I feel like Firefox just isn't there technologically. It's getting better, but they really let it stagnate back in the day.

Can you elaborate on this? I've tried Chromium once and again, but always fall back to Firefox as it feels better to me. Direct reasons are the address bar functionality and better privacy support out of the box, but also some generic feel is somehow just more familiar to me. Firefox does have global freezes on particularly heavy pages due to the single process model. It's rare enough not to bother me much though. As…

I use chrome as the default browser on Windows at work and on Mac at home. Though i tried firefox before on both OS, i feel it's nothing compared to chrome. I feel it's very heavy, takes more time to load pages than chrome.

Re: Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Post by mordocai »

mmastrac wrote: post #14
kpcyrd wrote: post #13

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> Chrome really took the ball and ran with it I'm still kind of bitter with the way they did that. A lot of windows installers, which usually installed you toolbars if you forgot to uncheck a box, started installing chrome as your default browser if you forgot to uncheck a box. I've seen a lot of non-technical people using chrome who have no idea what chrome is or remembering giving consent to installing chrome.

Interesting. I didn't see that - I assumed it was just a result of advertising it to everyone who searched on Google. Do you have any specific examples?

ccleaner and possibly the other piriform products do this

Re: Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Post by tdkl »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #23
kpcyrd wrote: post #13

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> Chrome really took the ball and ran with it I'm still kind of bitter with the way they did that. A lot of windows installers, which usually installed you toolbars if you forgot to uncheck a box, started installing chrome as your default browser if you forgot to uncheck a box. I've seen a lot of non-technical people using chrome who have no idea what chrome is or remembering giving consent to installing chrome.

Chrome also had the advantage of being advertised on Google.com.

It also had an advantage of being a friggin' fast browser. I switched in 2009 and never looked back beside occasionally trying out FF and nope'ing back to Chrome.

Re: Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Post by tdkl »

larrik wrote: post #22
SimeVidas wrote: post #15

Mozilla: We are a non-profit and we protect your privacy; we won’t use your data to make money. Most users: Nah, man. We’ll go with the search engine and ad network company.

Every time I try to switch to Firefox, it just doesn't work as well, and I switch back. I'd rather Firefox over Chrome for philosophical reasons, but I feel like Firefox just isn't there technologically. It's getting better, but they really let it stagnate back in the day.

The same and also Chrome Sync is basically the most reliable piece of software I ever saw, specially when connected to the mobile Chrome. FF (or anyone else) doesn't do that.

Re: Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Post by zobzu »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #23
kpcyrd wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Chrome really took the ball and ran with it I'm still kind of bitter with the way they did that. A lot of windows installers, which usually installed you toolbars if you forgot to uncheck a box, started installing chrome as your default browser if you forgot to uncheck a box. I've seen a lot of non-technical people using chrome who have no idea what chrome is or remembering giving consent to installing chrome.

Chrome also had the advantage of being advertised on Google.com.

anywhere i go without an adblocker begs me to install chrome and stop using whatever horrible outdated browser im using (according to the google ad), and how youtube, etc work best with chrome anyway

thats quite a lot of powerful advertisement, on the sites people browse every day. its not too different than being part of the default install IMO ;-)

and of course - chrome is a pretty good browser (though edge is actually quite good and firefox is pretty much ok as well despite not yet doing sandboxing)

Re: Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time

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Post by zobzu »

vlan0 wrote: post #16
mmastrac wrote: post #14

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Interesting. I didn't see that - I assumed it was just a result of advertising it to everyone who searched on Google. Do you have any specific examples?

Adobe is guilty of this. If you download Flash Player from their site, the "Optional offers" are to also install Chrome and Google Toolbar. Both of which are checked by default.

you're thinking google did not pay adobe for this, adobe is doing this just cuz they like it? are you mad
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