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Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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The age restrictions are odd. 3 years to learn a skill seems too much. Having to apply, so it is becomes an elitist programs, seems wrong. And their web site describes having to prove your worth in a 4 week 24x7 code fest before getting final acceptance into the program, which sounds like they do not understand the concept of burnout.

There are so many ways to learn to code... the only part these guys seem to have right is "free"

Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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What is the reason for having the age restriction of 30? Does it not implicitly contribute to the existing ageism issue in tech industry. Why can't a professional working in another industry learn something new at the age of 35 or a mother who wants to come back to the workforce after her kids start going to school?

If I recall correctly they have 50k+ applications a year in France. You have to do some filtering.

Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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So I am to strive to become a "very valuable asset for any company" ... I guess dehumanization is bad only when it is done by noncorporation people. Also - can we stop with teaching to code already. Assume instead of literacy and writing in schools we thought people how to flip pages on books with green covers. Or we were teaching people how to multiply only by 8. Without the broader body of IT literacy, coding is no…

It is not only teaching development, it's teaching UNIX, 3d, Security and much more [0].

In fact, the most important thing it's teaching is to learn by yourself. Most people just don't know how to learn without a teacher and that's the best skill you can learn if you wish to work in the industry.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(school)#Academics

Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing most people over 30 can not commit to a 3-year full time study, but it's weird indeed that they're not even allowed in.

3 years of study ?? What!? That's insane, you do not need 3 years of study to enter this industry. At that point, I may as well go and get a Computer Science degree at a local college and at least have a legitimate degree.

Yeah you can but to do that you need to match the academic prerequisites. You can enter 42 whatever your background is.

Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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The age restrictions are odd. 3 years to learn a skill seems too much. Having to apply, so it is becomes an elitist programs, seems wrong. And their web site describes having to prove your worth in a 4 week 24x7 code fest before getting final acceptance into the program, which sounds like they do not understand the concept of burnout. There are so many ways to learn to code... the only part these guys seem to have ri…

If you like coding and learning, the 24x7 coding period is a blast

Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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Why did they move to such an expensive area? If their goal is to provide services and help everyone why not build your university in an area like Detroit?

No one who is really interested won't go because of the location and it makes rent really cheap.

Hell, you could also have the Detroit government chip in and give you a great deal on land. What is bad for an economy about bringing some of our nations smartest programmers to a single location?

I'd love this if I could afford to go to it.

Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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Why did they move to such an expensive area? If their goal is to provide services and help everyone why not build your university in an area like Detroit? No one who is really interested won't go because of the location and it makes rent really cheap. Hell, you could also have the Detroit government chip in and give you a great deal on land. What is bad for an economy about bringing some of our nations smartest progr…

If you can't afford to live there they have a free dorm. There is only 164 rooms, don't know how they will distribute them.

Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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What is the reason for having the age restriction of 30? Does it not implicitly contribute to the existing ageism issue in tech industry. Why can't a professional working in another industry learn something new at the age of 35 or a mother who wants to come back to the workforce after her kids start going to school?

Here is all what the director seems to have said about the age limit (that is the same in the French school):

"I noticed in the past that we should not encourage too much age difference because it's harder then to form groups that work." (http://www.clubic.com/pro/emploi-informatique.clubic.com/act...)

"42 indeed focuses first on the 18-30. We think about other people with care, but we already initially have much to do." (http://www.vousnousils.fr/2013/04/12/nicolas-sadirac-l%E2%80...)

Re: 42 comes to Silicon Valley: free, non profit coding university

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

3 years of study ?? What!? That's insane, you do not need 3 years of study to enter this industry. At that point, I may as well go and get a Computer Science degree at a local college and at least have a legitimate degree.

Yeah you can but to do that you need to match the academic prerequisites. You can enter 42 whatever your background is.

Unless you are older then 30.. then it doesn't allow you to enter regardless of your background.

Most universities and almost every community college has acceptance for a wide range of backgrounds. You can enter my university on a GED at 31 if you like, doesn't seem possible here.

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