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Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

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Post by dragontamer »

kstrauser wrote: post #64
buro9 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Essentially a tweet ID should be a pointer to "latest version", but with historical versions preserved and available at the same visibility level as the parent (typically public) and a small indicator would show that it has been edited and the history is available. But all of those, "Damn I made a typo or dumb spelling (thx mobile keyboard) and yet it has been replied to or re-tweeted already"... all of that is solve…

I think it's still ripe for abuse. Case 1: I write "I love cats!" You RT it. I edit it to "I am Al Queda." The FBI visits you. Case 2: I write "I am Al Queda." I edit it to "I love cats!" before you see it. You like cats, too, so you RT it. The FBI has a slow feed, so they see that you endorsed my Al Queda membership. They pay you a visit. --- From a systems point of view, when your whole stack is designed around imm…

The original example is gamefaqs introduction of edits. What is your shoe size?

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Then the question changes to an age related question. What is the ideal age of a prostitute?

Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

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Post by chris_wot »

gregmac wrote: post #100
chris_wot wrote: post #69

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Whilst Twitter has someone tweet the occasional gem, it's genuinely few and far between. I honestly feel that the format was great when it was only really programmers who used it (and even then I'm not so sure...) but limiting people to 140 characters, even discounting images and links, means most people can't convey views on most complex issues. I have an unpopular view, but I'm firmly of the belief that all Twitter…

Definitely twitter is entirely about who you follow. I tried it out early on, saw no value, and ignored it for a year or two, until a friend convinced me it has some value, and there are two uses I find. I follow several programmers (some internet famous, some merely who I've found from using a project they worked on or someone else's retweet), and through that, find it interesting to get a glimpse at what other peop…

What's the best strategy for avoiding harassment? I have a Twitter account, but very, very rarely use it. It's my biggest concern really.

Knowing strategies to avoid just nasty people is the main issue I have with it. Like, if you go into Twitter and see that you have a whole bunch of Gamer Gayers targeting you (just an example, I can't see how I would be a target!) then I'd imagine having no Twitter would be preferable to actually having a Twitter account!

Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

#103

Post by lokedhs »

SilasX wrote: post #80
return0 wrote: post #58

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It wasn't really a blog though, right? Maybe it began as "a real-time blog aggregator, where blogs only have titles". I believe nowadays it's the network effect that keeps them, not the technology itself.

A description that, I think, would also fit HN ...

An astute observation. Yet people do not assume that HN will rival Facebook, nor do they place valuations in the hundreds of billions on it.

Twitters troubles come from a misguided impression of what it is supposed to be, creating pressure on the product to not be what it in fact is.

Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

#104

Post by newjersey »

Tenhundfeld wrote: post #38
mavrc wrote: post #27

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I find it quite frustrating. I can easily say what I want on other platforms because I can write what I need to without worrying about every single word. Twitter makes me stop and rewrite and rewrite and rewrite and finally get something that fits in 140 and makes sense for the most part after the third read if you understand me and all the context surrounding the thing I said. I suppose it's at least partially gener…

I mostly disagree. Sure, I've been frustrated at times when I can't express an idea in 140 characters, but in general, I think the limitation is a benefit. As a creator, it makes me distill my tweet to the purest essence of what I'm trying to say, and as a consumer, it lets me scan through my timeline quickly. Also, there's nothing stopping people from tweeting an idea and including a link to a blog/gist/whatever whe…

This discussion sorely misses people who subscribe to tweets by SMS. Here are a few from my stream. Please feel free to draw your own conclusions:

@MKBHD: From this weekend... #ultimate https://t.co/1bSuvFueee/s/9EwY

m.twitter.com/MKBHD

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@woot: $134.99 : Philips BR-30 Hue Starter Pack Bonus Kit https://t.co/X5Thalnvvr/s/JR-S

m.twitter.com/woot

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@maryjofoley: There is a new local OneDrive app for Win 10 for PCs and phones available for download. Not just for Insiders: https://t.co/25ADHBXwdY/s/KNYy

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@BernieSanders: All over this country, Native Americans have suffered far too much, and for far too long. They deserve a voice. https://t.co/jGqJcNuUOC/s/u4Wc

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1/2: @maryjofoley: MS broadening Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection preview: https://t.co/TvE43LrKmZ/s/7ZJh Possibly coming by Q3: https://t.co/e5hilZu 2/2: SoJ/s/-5Fn

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1/2: @MicrosoftOEM: RT @majornelson: Hey #SanFrancisco: I'll be there this Saturday to help open the new @Razer store. If you are in the area stop by https://t 2/2: .co/InwMnkn6xh/s/IIVm

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Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

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Post by newjersey »

tacone wrote: post #71
buro9 wrote: post #48

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Edit!

That's a recipe for disaster. You don't edit SMS, why should you be able to edit tweets?

Exactly! I'd say I am strongly against the ability to edit tweets. I'd even put it higher than the strict reverse chronological flow of tweets that I prize so much that I still allow Twitter to send me tweets by SMS.

Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

#106

Post by greggman »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #31

What I find stupid is that the length of usernames counts in the message. A message to @myfriend can be longer than a message to @myfriendblessednaycursedwithalongername

@Im @guessing @its @because @you @could @get @around @the @message @size @limits @if @at @marks @did @not @count @against @your @total @size?

Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

#107

Post by SpanishBrowne »

aaronsnoswell wrote: post #41

Why did this make the front page of HN?

I'm assuming what you're really asking is; why is this news when their peers are venturing into amazing new fields like self-driving cars, immersive VR and AR, AI, chat bots etc., meanwhile, Twitter continues to agonise over how many characters to allow in a tweet (and subsequently presenting the decision as an amazing product update). Valid question!

Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

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Post by ludamad »

niccaluim wrote: post #34
nickfrostatx wrote: post #28

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Given how important domain names are for security, it would be concerning if domain names get truncated. I could craft: evil.net/this-is-a-very-very-long-path/bankofamerica.com/account-settings/blah/blah/blah Which, depending on how this is implemented, might render to ...bankofamerica.com/account-settings/blah/blah/blah

The domain and path are truncated separately. Your example would be displayed as evil.net/this-is-a-very-very-lo…

So evil-bank-of-america.net would do?

Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

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Post by Ileca »

kstrauser wrote: post #64
buro9 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Essentially a tweet ID should be a pointer to "latest version", but with historical versions preserved and available at the same visibility level as the parent (typically public) and a small indicator would show that it has been edited and the history is available. But all of those, "Damn I made a typo or dumb spelling (thx mobile keyboard) and yet it has been replied to or re-tweeted already"... all of that is solve…

I think it's still ripe for abuse. Case 1: I write "I love cats!" You RT it. I edit it to "I am Al Queda." The FBI visits you. Case 2: I write "I am Al Queda." I edit it to "I love cats!" before you see it. You like cats, too, so you RT it. The FBI has a slow feed, so they see that you endorsed my Al Queda membership. They pay you a visit. --- From a systems point of view, when your whole stack is designed around imm…

I think it already happened with a troll baiting racists. He waited for a lot of RT then changed the source of the embedded racist picture with something like "I am a big disgusting stupid racist". Something like that. It was a good one, though.

Re: Twitter to Stop Counting Photos and Links in 140-Character Limit

#110

Post by hrabago »

lokedhs wrote: post #103
SilasX wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A description that, I think, would also fit HN ...

An astute observation. Yet people do not assume that HN will rival Facebook, nor do they place valuations in the hundreds of billions on it. Twitters troubles come from a misguided impression of what it is supposed to be, creating pressure on the product to not be what it in fact is.

Isn't this a common concern with most startups which seek to grow beyond 6, 7 or 8 figures?
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