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The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

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Re: The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

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Based on existing proposals, the DAO offers a new type of investment mechanism.

Regular crowdfunding allows accredited as well as non-accredited investors to lock their money in with a start-up in exchange of various type of securities (preferred equity/convertible debt etc...). In this scheme the investors have most of the time absolutely 0 liquidity to exit their investment until the start-up goes public.

The DAO proposals in contrast offers a revenue sharing proposition. The startup can receive a lump sum or stream of payments in exchange for a promise to execute on their business plan. Once the company gets revenue (on the blockchain) a piece of it (like 1%) will be redistributed to token holders (as a form of dividend if you want).

In contrast to illiquid/bottom line offer available in regular crowdfunding platforms, the DAO offers a topline/liquid investment. The liquidity comes from the fact that although the DAO technically "locks" its investment with the startup, the DAO token themselves are a tradeable assets which can be exchanged against other cryptocurrencies (BTC mainly) as soon as the DAO is officially created.

In this light the DAO is akin to some kind of decentralized investment firm because the token holders are not directly owners of any share in the beneficiary business. On the other hand it is a transparent investment firm because no portfolio manager takes discretionary decisions about which startup funds will be allocated to.

the fund allocation logic is organized as "proposals" that can be voted in a secure and transparent fashion on the ethereum blockchain through a smart contract.

hope this clarifies some aspects of that project!

Re: The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

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post #41

I went to their website, read a few pages of the content, and I still have no idea what is this and why they're close to $100MM funding.

Makes you wonder who is contributing the 100MM and how they know what they know.

I contributed, and I know what I know by virtue of playing with the technology, keeping up with the news in r/ethereum, etc. The usual kind of thing one does in smaller tech communities.

Re: The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

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post #39

This is just bonkers: >By Creating DAO tokens through interaction with The DAO’s smart contract code, you expressly agree to all of the terms and conditions set forth in that code. If you do not understand or do not agree to those terms, you should not Create DAO tokens. They are saying you need to fully understand all the code, in order to responsibly decide whether you should click a button. But the code is off som…

The code that defines the contract is publicly viewable on the blockchain. [1]

[1]: https://etherscan.io/address/0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d...

Re: The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes you wonder who is contributing the 100MM and how they know what they know.

I contributed, and I know what I know by virtue of playing with the technology, keeping up with the news in r/ethereum, etc. The usual kind of thing one does in smaller tech communities.

Same here. For those who have been keeping up with Ethereum developments, the DAO has been in the works for a long time, and people already have a general idea of what it is. There's been a lot of previous discussion about it dating back years[1].

I think the problem with the website is the people who created it are so deep into this stuff that they think it does a sufficiently decent job of explaining it. They've forgotten just how much of a learning curve there is for someone outside of the Ethereum community, much less anyone unfamiliar with blockchain technology. They may have not even planned for the website to explain it to such people, thinking they would be uninterested or unable to figure out how to participate anyway.

[1] https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/05/06/daos-dacs-das-and-more-...

Re: The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is it a blockchain-centred crowdfunding platform? Yes. It's a blockchain powered crowdfunding platform. Except it isn't just a medium to pre-order cool projects online(like Kickstarter is).

No this is not crowdfunding over blockchains. This is just someone putting up an address to collect money and issuing homemade tokens.

Haha, you really think that's all it is and they were able to convince people to send them $100 million to that address?

Re: The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

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post #8

This is a good example of a completely useless web page. What is a DAO? Why should I care? Who is running this? Is this a for-profit enterprise? A non-profit? An NGO? A performance art collective? > The DAO’s Mission: To blaze a new path in business organization for the betterment of its members, existing simultaneously nowhere and everywhere and operating solely with the steadfast iron will of unstoppable code. This…

A DAO is simply software that incentivizes humans to act.

Bitcoin is considered the first DAO. This interview explains it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn_7fdmfZY8&feature=youtu.be...

The DAO is a new type of DAO that instead inflating it's own currency to incentivize humans to do things, it actually is bootstrapped by the people who Create the tokens during the Creation phase.

All DAOs are autonomous. The DAO is run by DAO token holders, they can vote to send money to Proposals.

The idea is that the DAO Token Holders want to make a change in the world, but don't have the time or the plan to do it.

The DAO and it's Proposals are a special type of software called smart contracts. They can be thought of a digital safe that only releases digital currency according to the rules of the Smart contract. The DAO only sends money out when the DAO Token Holders Vote to agree to it and Proposals will have daily/weekly/monthly payment schedules.

Slock.it is hoping that The DAO will choose the Universal Sharing Network to be their flag ship product. We (I work for Slock.it) led the development of The DAO's Code (the [Standard DAO Framework](https://github.com/slockit/DAO) ) so it is specifically designed for the project.

Slock.it will submit a Proposal to The DAO to build the Universal Sharing Network in 2 weeks asking for The DAO to send an amount of digital currency (ETH) to the Smart contract, that ETH will be sent to Slock.it slowly over time and if at any time The DAO doesn't think Slock.it is doing a good job, it can Fire Slock.it and take back the money that is left in the smart contract.

We hope The DAO will be an Ethereum/IoT DAO, and that the DAO Token Holders are excited about that... However we do not know if this will be the case.

This is our [Proposal Overview](http://download.slock.it/public/DAO/Proposal1.pdf)

If you want to learn more about Slock.it's dream to build a Universal Sharing Network, check out this interview: https://youtu.be/Pn_7fdmfZY8?t=4894

If you want to see Christoph walk thru the code for the Sample proposal watch here: https://youtu.be/5BkQ0te_TA0?t=4587

Re: The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

#69
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The DAO is essentially a 'Smart Contract' (read: a computer program which runs over the blockchain) between the willing investors to collectively fund various projects (in exchange of a certain return). People are investing in this because they want to participate in the future blockchain/non-blockchain projects which will seek funding from the DAO. Others can submit proposals to this smart contract, and community ca…

There are non-smartContract program that run on blockchain. That is not what a smart contract is.

A concept of a 'smart contract' isn't well-defined, thus it's hard to tell if something is a 'smart contract'.

But programs which run on Ethereum blockchain are officially called contracts.

Re: The DAO close to $100m in funding. Soon to be the largest crowdfunding ever

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post #8

This is a good example of a completely useless web page. What is a DAO? Why should I care? Who is running this? Is this a for-profit enterprise? A non-profit? An NGO? A performance art collective? > The DAO’s Mission: To blaze a new path in business organization for the betterment of its members, existing simultaneously nowhere and everywhere and operating solely with the steadfast iron will of unstoppable code. This…

DAO means "Decentralized Autonomous Organization". You can read more about it here: https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/05/06/daos-dacs-das-and-more-...

The page was designed for people who already know what is a DAO and need information on that specific DAO.

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