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Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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Post by bruceb »

colemickens wrote: post #48
chisleu wrote: post #43

I was with her until she started talking about Trayvon.

Seriously? You're really willing to make that comment? After George just tried to auction off the gun he used to kill Trayvon? Even after he's had multiple run ins with the law due to gun violence since he killed Trayvon? Really? I don't know why I stick my neck out to engage with people like you about topics like this, on a forum like this, but what the hell is wrong with you? You were worried about the authorities…

One doesn't have anything to do with the other. Zimmerman wasn't law enforcement. We also have only one side to this story.

It does appear in this case he was not treated appropriately but would like to find out more before rushing to judgment.

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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Post by chisleu »

colemickens wrote: post #48
chisleu wrote: post #43

I was with her until she started talking about Trayvon.

Seriously? You're really willing to make that comment? After George just tried to auction off the gun he used to kill Trayvon? Even after he's had multiple run ins with the law due to gun violence since he killed Trayvon? Really? I don't know why I stick my neck out to engage with people like you about topics like this, on a forum like this, but what the hell is wrong with you? You were worried about the authorities…

I'm confused. I didn't say anything about Zimmerman. That dude is a dick.

It doesn't change the fact that Trayvon was a violent, brain damaged, hard drug abuser that attacked someone without just cause.

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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Post by pmiller2 »

bigiain wrote: post #40
gsklee wrote: post #4

I once dreamed of immigrating to the US and working in the Bay Area... but it's become apparent to me now that there's something inherently wrong with that country. I guess I'll go to Australia or Canada instead.

Out of the frying pan... http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/04/nsw-po... "New South Wales police are on the verge of securing “extreme” new powers including to impose curfews on citizens, restrict who they spend time with or limit their communications, if they suspect involvement in “serious crime-related activity”. The new “serious crime prevention orders” (SCPO) are similar to the control orders use…

> theft, tax evasion, money laundering or homicide.

What the actual fuck? This is despicable no matter what. They just have to be "suspected" to be subject to these insane powers?

But, the real insanity is that a crime like tax evasion is included in this list. Seriously. Tax evasion? Now, I know that the thing these all have in common is that they're commonly purpetrated by the mob and all, but tax evasion just doesn't rise to the level of homicide or even money laundering.

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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Post by DrScump »

joe_the_user wrote: post #46
djrogers wrote: post #12

Wow, I am really looking forward to finding g out more about this. What agency were they with? How often do they do this? Was it random or targeted, and if the latter at the person or device? Side note - he wasn't arrested, he was handcuffed, had a weapon stuck in his back, was detained, had an illegal search performed on his possessions, and all by purported law enforcement officers who refused to identify themselve…

Side note - he wasn't arrested, he was handcuffed, had a weapon stuck in his back, was detained, had an illegal search performed on his possessions, and all by purported law enforcement officers who refused to identify themselves. I have some news for you. Arrest means nothing but detained/held/stopped. Most people imagine an arrest action has something formal to it, like having your rights read or someone announcing…

No, they have wide latitude to try to claim probable cause but cannot create probable cause out of thin air. If a court later decides there was none, the evidence is tossed anyway (and permanently tainted).

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Post by troisx »

colemickens wrote: post #48
chisleu wrote: post #43

I was with her until she started talking about Trayvon.

Seriously? You're really willing to make that comment? After George just tried to auction off the gun he used to kill Trayvon? Even after he's had multiple run ins with the law due to gun violence since he killed Trayvon? Really? I don't know why I stick my neck out to engage with people like you about topics like this, on a forum like this, but what the hell is wrong with you? You were worried about the authorities…

It's probably because like many "reporters" at Daily Beast, she apparently has an agenda to push. Why not just report the story, complete with facts like where exactly it happened, and maybe at least one interview with a witness on this "busy street".

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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Post by pcardh0 »

djrogers wrote: post #12

Wow, I am really looking forward to finding g out more about this. What agency were they with? How often do they do this? Was it random or targeted, and if the latter at the person or device? Side note - he wasn't arrested, he was handcuffed, had a weapon stuck in his back, was detained, had an illegal search performed on his possessions, and all by purported law enforcement officers who refused to identify themselve…

I would like to find out more too. It is hard to believe that the police are just randomly hassling sellers of Mac-Books.

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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Post by chisleu »

colemickens wrote: post #48
chisleu wrote: post #43

I was with her until she started talking about Trayvon.

Seriously? You're really willing to make that comment? After George just tried to auction off the gun he used to kill Trayvon? Even after he's had multiple run ins with the law due to gun violence since he killed Trayvon? Really? I don't know why I stick my neck out to engage with people like you about topics like this, on a forum like this, but what the hell is wrong with you? You were worried about the authorities…

I also didn't say I don't care. I just said that I was with her up until she decided to include Trayvon in the discussion.

That alone DOES make me question if she is only telling part of the story.

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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Post by Snowdax »

segf4ult wrote: post #35
senectus1 wrote: post #34

this sort of crap is what keeps me from letting the wife book a holiday to the US. Damn, US you a scary country.

And what country are you in where things like this don't happen?

Well I can't speak for many countries but Irish police figures are slightly more flattering with 8 people shot by police in total over 15 years. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/eight-fatally-shot-by-g...

This is mostly down to how your standard police don't have any firearms at all. So you could say things are at least a few places elsewhere a little different.

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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Post by gdix »

So the subtext here is that the cops are racist, right? How would the police know the seller of the Macbook was black from the Craigslist post?

How did her son know it was a weapon pressed against his back?

How could the handcuffs possibly have cut his wrists? Handcuffs don't have, like, blades on them that just cut you as they're hanging off your wrists. Seems like something added to punch-up the narrative.

And then tag it with a couple "Trayvon" mentions at the end. This screams "hoax" to me.

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