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this sort of crap is what keeps me from letting the wife book a holiday to the US. Damn, US you a scary country.
And what country are you in where things like this don't happen?
I once dreamed of immigrating to the US and working in the Bay Area... but it's become apparent to me now that there's something inherently wrong with that country. I guess I'll go to Australia or Canada instead.
Canada is cold. Australia is expensive and its government is corrupt. But getting to the point, you really shouldn't allow isolated acts like this to influence you. You're much more likely to be killed by the next earthquake in the Bay area then you are to be killed by dopey police officer.
I once dreamed of immigrating to the US and working in the Bay Area... but it's become apparent to me now that there's something inherently wrong with that country. I guess I'll go to Australia or Canada instead.
Come to Australia! We need as many skilled workers as possible.
Wow, I am really looking forward to finding g out more about this. What agency were they with? How often do they do this? Was it random or targeted, and if the latter at the person or device? Side note - he wasn't arrested, he was handcuffed, had a weapon stuck in his back, was detained, had an illegal search performed on his possessions, and all by purported law enforcement officers who refused to identify themselve…
I have some news for you. Arrest means nothing but detained/held/stopped. Most people imagine an arrest action has something formal to it, like having your rights read or someone announcing you're arrested. But it doesn't. You've been detained? You have been arrested. The cops zero obligation to tell you anything and they never have had such obligation.
As to whether it was illegal? The police have wide latitude to determine probable cause for whatever. You're right this kind of thing happens all the time, you're right it's despicable. But sadly, it's broadly legal and more or less the "normal" way the law works.
If you read the wikipedia article, it describes rights but you will notice the only limits in the US is how long you can be held and whether your statements can held against you (at which point you are supposed to be read you're right, except for limitless exceptions to this requirement).
Wow, I am really looking forward to finding g out more about this. What agency were they with? How often do they do this? Was it random or targeted, and if the latter at the person or device? Side note - he wasn't arrested, he was handcuffed, had a weapon stuck in his back, was detained, had an illegal search performed on his possessions, and all by purported law enforcement officers who refused to identify themselve…
I was with her until she started talking about Trayvon.
I don't know why I stick my neck out to engage with people like you about topics like this, on a forum like this, but what the hell is wrong with you? You were worried about the authorities kidnapping and holding someone at gunpoint (sans an arrest, that's exactly what happened) but the second the mom references another person of color who was possibly wasn't served justice, you just don't care anymore?
Is that really what you're saying? Or is there some nuance here I'm missing?
edit: I'm genuinely sorry I said anything; I should have ignored it and I won't be replying further.
I once dreamed of immigrating to the US and working in the Bay Area... but it's become apparent to me now that there's something inherently wrong with that country. I guess I'll go to Australia or Canada instead.
There is nothing about this indicative of actual police procedure. Craigslist-originated robberies are fairly common in urban U.S. CL regions.
In any case, there are contradictions in her account. For one, she expresses concern about his "personal files" being probed, copied and taken (with no indication why any would be of any interest to any level of law enforcement), yet this was a computer he was selling to a complete stranger as it was -- why would any personal files of any value or vulnerability be left on it in the first place?