A former CIA spy has revealed his key role in the arrest of Nelson Mandela

Post by dijit » Sun, May 15, 2016, 2:44 PM UTC

zo1 wrote: post #198

dijit wrote: post #81

Given the serious effort CIA puts into destabilising regions (Lets not forget the large amounts of sources who said people were being ferried and paid to go to Kiev when the Ukrainian uprising was occuring) it would not surprise me very much if they were also behind the Britain "exit" from Europe, since that would cause an economic collapse of the EU and would remove a super-power from play. I feel like a conspiracy…

" I mean it's economic suicide for britain to leave the EU, yet someone is plastering it all over the media and it's not the politicians. :\ " It's still their choice, to democratically decide to leave. Even though it potentially has bad/far-reaching consequences, doesn't mean we can discount the "democratic process" because of nefarious interference by clandestine agencies and media-manipulation.

Post by Udik » Sun, May 15, 2016, 2:46 PM UTC

sandisk5 wrote: post #137

Synaesthesia wrote: post #119

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Of course the government of SA didn't have to renounce violence, which is the way they dealt with any resistance. Violence, torture, intimidation. Refusal to negotiate. Of course we don't call the Apartheid government "terrorists" for these crimes. He was not a communist, but an African nationalist. This is something he has always maintained and was confirmed when he became president, the national economic policy was…

> Of course we don't call the Apartheid government "terrorists" for these crimes. Almost everyone agrees that the Apartheid government was horrible. Almost no one holds them up as a positive example. Conversely, almost everyone holds Mandela and his terrorist organization up as an example and as a hero despite them intentionally setting off bombs in civilian locations like shopping malls and restaurants.

Post by kiba » Sun, May 15, 2016, 2:57 PM UTC

alienjr wrote: post #172

ck2 wrote: post #98

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Is that like the congressional committee headed by and filled with people who don't believe in science? https://www.google.com/search?q=congress+committee+anti+scie... Why would you expect any other oversight committee in any other field be competent?

Well, they were elected by a majority who doesn't believe in science. That's why it's strange that most of the people who believe in majority rule are surprised when democratic elections result in such outcomes.

Post by c2the3rd » Sun, May 15, 2016, 2:59 PM UTC

Post by [deleted] » Sun, May 15, 2016, 3:05 PM UTC

kangar00 wrote: post #83

cm3 wrote: post #5

The CIA is the reason for most of the unstable regions and it's hard to understand how after messing with other places and making it worse for everybody but weapons manufacturers, they're still doing the same thing over and over. Previously it was the fight against Communism, now Islam, I wonder what it will be in 2020. Middle-east, Asia, South America, all are right to be very angry with the CIA, but turn it into a…

> CIA's policy is probably controlled by someone else, and that's where changes need to be made because I like to think they don't come up with the stuff on their own. Beyond you liking to think that, what evidence do you have that the CIA's policy is controlled by anyone other than the CIA's Deputy Director who commands internal operations, and its Director, who reports to the director of National Intelligence as we…