I'd love to find a sample -- how do they communicate? Wirelessly? Betcha they can be fingerprinted
Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area
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#242If this were true then how do you explain all the crime that still happens. Even high profile cases. It would be a lot easier to manager bigger crimes. But since we still see them struggling with even big profile cases, where not having an arrest is embarrassing, it's extremely hard to imagine this being true.
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#243To me this goes back to the issue of having a reasonable expectation of privacy.
As others have pointed out, if I am in a public place and someone snaps a photo of me or a surveillance camera records my actions, I generally can't argue this was an unreasonable invasion.
I'm certain legal scholars are well-versed in the technicalities of expectations of privacy, but I do wonder if we will face new challenges in this area as the number of pervasively connected and recording devices increases.
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#244This clickbait article is going to cause people to think the government was just spying on everyone everywhere for no other reason than just to spy on you. Another "distrust the damn government" article that further divides people against others.
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#245If that's true we are moving into a scary world pretty much like 1984 where everything you do is monitored all the time. Add voice, face recognition, surveillance drones, cheap data storage and AI to the mix it seems pretty soon everything you do in a public place will be recorded and analyzed. And all this can be done fully automated. I hope people will recognize that some laws need to change. Surveillance makes sen…
> If that's true we are moving into a scary world pretty much like 1984 This became obvious since the proof delivered by Snowden. And we don't need more proof. What we need now is a way to roll the surveillance state back.
Encypt, baby, encypt.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not describing the ideal, I'm describing the reality. Digression: my mom loves Hillary Clinton. She's an immigrant, consumes very little American media, but she is a staunch Clinton supporter. Clinton recites all the buzzwords she likes: children, education, security. She views politically radical ideas with deep suspicion and views nonconformity as a character flaw. I look at the government we have, and can't he…
What Clinton tells her is not what Clinton actually does. Campaign promises are exactly that. The government lies to your mom to get her support and 'keep her in line'.
Clinton lies to you to appease my mom. President Clinton will funnel even more money into education and social security and Medicare. It's any views she expresses about having "evolved" on issues of criminal justice or drugs that are in danger when she shifts from talking to democratic primary voters to talking to the general electorate.
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If that's true we are moving into a scary world pretty much like 1984 This became obvious since the proof delivered by Snowden. And we don't need more proof. What we need now is a way to roll the surveillance state back.
Encypt, baby, encypt.
Encrypt your public discourse
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#248This clickbait article is going to cause people to think the government was just spying on everyone everywhere for no other reason than just to spy on you. Another "distrust the damn government" article that further divides people against others.
Clickbait title wouldn't specify it as only being in the Bay area. The title makes no claims not held up by the article
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google has vastly more information on everyone in America. Orders of magnitude. (and by extension maybe foreign intelligence agencies) The government is just playing catch-up! I rather our slightly dysfunctional government have more information about me than an ad company that's the play toy of tech-utopian billionaires
I don't use Google, and prefer they not keep tabs on me all the time...but I think governments have a much...much worse track record on suppressing people than corporations. Google can be wiped from the earth by merely a new invention or a shift in the market to a better product...or financial fraud. Pretty hard to up root an entire legal structure and apparatus that grows every single year and has the ability to jai…
>I think governments have a much...much worse track record on suppressing people than corporations.
Ever heard of the East India Company? Pinkerton National Detective Agency?
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't even need to go that far. Try to find the salary scales or FOIA the salary data of police. In most places, they cook up some reason why it's protected information. In many states, every aspect of public employee compensation is publicly available. As it should be. Public safety folks are usually exempt.
In Germany, these are (relatively) public; on the shoulder flaps of any regular police officer (except the riot police ) you have the rank insignia which allows one to approximate the salary level.
Police officer personal income varies wildly from $30k to $400k per year, quite unpredictably, in the US. Overtime pay, bonuses, double-dipping by being "on call" for Fire Services while actively writting traffic tickets, etc. There is much variability and many factors.