You know how we're still hunting down and jailing formers nazis and concentration camp guards? Why aren't we doing the same to these CIA agents and decision makers?
Because the United States of America didn't lose any wars, and winners make policy.
A former CIA spy has revealed his key role in the arrest of Nelson Mandela
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Re: A former CIA spy has revealed his key role in the arrest of Nelson Mandela
#22Linkbait title. If the testimony is true then at best its a tip off about a then wanted man's location, nothing to do woth cia behind a conviction or anything else.
As if Mandela was going to go free by Apartheid regime.
When you know the outcome, you don't get to wash your hands of the guilt.
Re: A former CIA spy has revealed his key role in the arrest of Nelson Mandela
#23Would South Africa be a better place if it had become a Russian-influenced Communist country?
If Mandela was a secret operative for the communists in South Africa, as the local communist party claimed when he died, and as this former CIA operative has claimed, then he had to have known he was playing a tricky game. Ending apartheid, creating a communist paradise, pick one.
[Edit] I know I'm being downvoted, but I also doubt anyone commenting here lives in a communist country, or has ever spent much time in one.
Re: A former CIA spy has revealed his key role in the arrest of Nelson Mandela
#24You know how we're still hunting down and jailing formers nazis and concentration camp guards? Why aren't we doing the same to these CIA agents and decision makers?
Because the United States of America didn't lose any wars, and winners make policy.
That explains why the Republic of South Vietnam is doing so well these days, and why Iraq and Afghanistan are beacons of hope and democracy in the middle east.
(The USA does lose wars; it's just career suicide for a politician -- and deeply unpopular for a media channel -- to admit it. And nobody has actually threatened to invade the CONUS since 1941, so the cost of losing a war is much lower than for most other nations.)
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#25You know how we're still hunting down and jailing formers nazis and concentration camp guards? Why aren't we doing the same to these CIA agents and decision makers?
Because the United States of America didn't lose any wars, and winners make policy.
How about Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan?
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#26Oh my God! This can't be true can it? I dont want to wake up tomorrow and learn that the Iraq war adventure was not based on wrong CIA intelligence, but a manufactured one, and 100% of the US political establishment knew it (in addition to basically the rest of the world).
Not sure if trolling... ?? Just for the record: of course large parts of it were manufactured. Some of it was manufactured by a so-called "source", but that source was so in-/non-credible that you wouldn't buy a used hammer from him, never mind a used car. And it was well known that this source was completely non-credible. In addition, various other bits were combined in ways that the appearance of a threat was manuf…
> Just for the record: of course large parts of it were manufactured. Some of it was manufactured by a so-called "source", but that source was so in-/non-credible that you wouldn't buy a used hammer from him
Yet Powell built his case, before the UN with Curveball's informations. Curveball who ultimately admitted he was a taxi driver and not a scientist. Some might say "the US has been misled", I don't believe one second, the Bush government was looking for any excuse, even fake to invade Irak. I pity the families of all the soldiers who died there, they died for nothing. And the locals who were massacred,during and after the war,the US is directly responsible for their death.
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#27You know how we're still hunting down and jailing formers nazis and concentration camp guards? Why aren't we doing the same to these CIA agents and decision makers?
Because the United States of America didn't lose any wars, and winners make policy.
"Winners" is the wrong word here. The US has a massive amount of clout and can project power globally (unlike most countries).
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the United States of America didn't lose any wars, and winners make policy.
How about Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan?
They lost in that they didn't achieve what they set out to do, but there was no instrument of surrender signed in SF bay, Nuremberg-style kangaroo court, USA partitioned into friendly states, etc.
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#29Well, sending him to jail helped make him an important figure. True, there's no way of knowing how it have gone otherwise Not to be demonized but not to be idolized as well
There's a high chance he would have had an "accident" like Steve Biko.
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#30You know how we're still hunting down and jailing formers nazis and concentration camp guards? Why aren't we doing the same to these CIA agents and decision makers?
The US actually brought on a lot of nazis after WW2 to work with against the Soviets.
American history is fun like that.