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Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area
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#222Re: Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area
#223Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is a very misleading headline. The article contains no evidence of a government-operated network of listening microphones in the Bay area. It deals with one incident using a specific piece of surveillance gear. What we actually know is this: An FBI agent was attempting to bust two individuals suspected of a bid-fixing scheme. This FBI agent then placed two recording devices in a light fixture a…
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2016/05/11/...
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many journalists, lawyers, political activists, and civil rights advocates would disagree with your characterization. Just because you personally aren't aware of abuses doesn't mean that they don't occur. Bush-era antiwar groups, Occupy Wall Street, leftist political groups, security researchers, environmental activists, whistleblowers, lawyers representing "sensitive" clients, and MLK himself... all have faced some…
Yeah, but wouldn't you agree that each time the government does overstep it's authority there is a backlash and they stop? Society seems to keep the government in check. Things like the MLK scenario are a lot less likely now-a-days. If you're say prodrug legalization, it's very very unlikely you'll be blackmailed for your extramarital affairs by a government official (in fact that seems kinda absurd). Yes bad things…
Most definitely NOT. Even discounting things like the PATRIOT act, which wasn't even hidden, the government only gets backlash when it's actually CAUGHT, and then only when it's particularly provable.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it will make hit and runs easier to get away with. It won't make liability insurance worse, but it will make coverage that pays for damages in those cases much more expensive.
Austin police do not follow up on hit and runs unless there is a crime - vehicular assault or manslaughter. Even if you have the plate number and video footage.
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#226Hmm I wonder how this would work considering its all things openly available to be recorded. Follow a federal agent home from work and film them and their house. Film their children going to school and post pictures locations and times online, also taking photos of other relatives, friends etc and where they live and their phone numbers and post it all online. Have your friends join in and keep posting every detail a…
Harassment.
Re: Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you saying the government does not do "vigorous enforcement of drug laws, long punishments for criminals"? These are topics that are the source of perennial complaints on HN. I think rayiner's point is that outside the HN echo chamber, there is a lot of implicit support for all kinds of empowerment of government and law enforcement agencies to "keep people in line". These same people may possibly even condone sur…
The original point was that people should fear corporations more than the government, because the government is the instrument of the people, whereas corporations have other less savory motives. But its not true - the government is not to be trusted. It has a monopoly on military / police force, which it abuses incessantly. Moreover, it is effectively controlled by a private duopoly (Democrats + Republicans), with th…
America needs a down round, perhaps... or how does one kick VCs off the board? Dissolve the company and start another one?
Re: Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area
#228Re: Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area
#229Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is a very misleading headline. The article contains no evidence of a government-operated network of listening microphones in the Bay area. It deals with one incident using a specific piece of surveillance gear. What we actually know is this: An FBI agent was attempting to bust two individuals suspected of a bid-fixing scheme. This FBI agent then placed two recording devices in a light fixture a…
No, it's far more than two devices, and it went on for 10 months. They placed surveillance all around the 2 courthouses: light fixtures, a bus stop, bushes, poles, the steps, and inside several vehicles. And there's another similar case from last year with >200 hours of recordings in San Mateo. http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2016/05/11/...
Seems like it would cost a heck of a lot. I mean, you would need trained people sitting around listening to all those recordings.
Re: Hidden Microphones Part of Government Surveillance Program in the Bay Area
#230Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is a very misleading headline. The article contains no evidence of a government-operated network of listening microphones in the Bay area. It deals with one incident using a specific piece of surveillance gear. What we actually know is this: An FBI agent was attempting to bust two individuals suspected of a bid-fixing scheme. This FBI agent then placed two recording devices in a light fixture a…