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An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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I am very sorry for your loss. my (armchair) analysis on cancer treatment - i) chemotherapy, in vacuum, most likely does considerably more harm than good, ii) sugar feeds cancer cells, iii) essential to feed body nutrients from a variety of sources (all must be plant based and non-processed), iv) it is likely a prudent investment to engage in holistic treatments such as being immersed in positivity and fulfilled envi…

I am sure you mean well, but you need to be better informed about biology. Table sugar is not the greatest thing in the world for our bodies, but your body needs certain kinds of sugars to function. Glucose is how your brain is powered. Sadly there is no evidence that restricting sugar would retard cancerous growth. Yes, there are toxins in our environment. Going past that to things that affect cancer is a huge step.…

Gluconeogenesis is the process by which the body synthesizes glucose from protein. So long as fats and proteins are available, human beings have no need for any sugars in our diets whatsoever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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So would a ketogenic diet be effective then?

Needs more studies. Armchair analysts find it intuitive though, but we don't know for sure yet.

This is the best way to describe just about any diet or exercise ideas floated on HN.

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sure you mean well, but you need to be better informed about biology. Table sugar is not the greatest thing in the world for our bodies, but your body needs certain kinds of sugars to function. Glucose is how your brain is powered. Sadly there is no evidence that restricting sugar would retard cancerous growth. Yes, there are toxins in our environment. Going past that to things that affect cancer is a huge step.…

Gluconeogenesis is the process by which the body synthesizes glucose from protein. So long as fats and proteins are available, human beings have no need for any sugars in our diets whatsoever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis

Or, you could just eat glucose. You guys are complete morons. Why would you use a starvation pathway to force protein to create glucose so you can use glucose, when you can just eat some fucking fruit.

I can't wait until you twats pass away.

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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I am very sorry for your loss. my (armchair) analysis on cancer treatment - i) chemotherapy, in vacuum, most likely does considerably more harm than good, ii) sugar feeds cancer cells, iii) essential to feed body nutrients from a variety of sources (all must be plant based and non-processed), iv) it is likely a prudent investment to engage in holistic treatments such as being immersed in positivity and fulfilled envi…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11698213 and marked it off-topic.

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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I was recently shocked and practically offended to read guidelines on what to eat while undergoing chemo[1]. It was a high-sugar diet, basically (milkshakes were encouraged !). I couldn't imagine anything worse than shocking your body with radiation, and then providing cancer cells with all the sugar they need for growth. Hopefully the ideas in this article start to affect public health policy and guidelines. 1: http…

They recommend that because in many cases you can't hold down solid food for periods of time.

Good luck eating your veg and protein when you immediately vomit it back up.

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My mother had lung cancer which spread to other parts of her body. Throughout her sickness, she ate very little, then almost nothing as the disease progressed. By the time of her death, she was practically just skin and bones. "Starving the cancer" didn't seem to work in her case. Then again, chemo also seemed to have zero effect. Cancer just spread, more and more, with each passing month.

That sucks, and I'm sorry. But: chiming in to clarify: it's not "stop eating to starve cancer"; its, "change diet to route energy through metabolic pathways that cancer is disadvantaged for".

The parents point is valid though.

If not eating sugar could slow (all) cancers, then not eating at all would clearly cover that case, and should have slowed the lung cancer.

At the very least, his anecdote is convincing to me that it "starving the cancer" doesn't work with lung cancer.

In the more general sense though my first impression of the phrase "route energy through metabolic pathways that cancer is disadvantaged for" is that it sounds like random word salad.

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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I am very sorry for your loss. my (armchair) analysis on cancer treatment - i) chemotherapy, in vacuum, most likely does considerably more harm than good, ii) sugar feeds cancer cells, iii) essential to feed body nutrients from a variety of sources (all must be plant based and non-processed), iv) it is likely a prudent investment to engage in holistic treatments such as being immersed in positivity and fulfilled envi…

I am sure you mean well, but you need to be better informed about biology. Table sugar is not the greatest thing in the world for our bodies, but your body needs certain kinds of sugars to function. Glucose is how your brain is powered. Sadly there is no evidence that restricting sugar would retard cancerous growth. Yes, there are toxins in our environment. Going past that to things that affect cancer is a huge step.…

You do not need to eat sugar to have glucose. You do not need to eat carbs at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis

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