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An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Post by WalterBright »

cloudjacker wrote: post #6
WalterBright wrote: post #3

A family member of mine was diagnosed with metastatic cancer and told to get her affairs in order. She went on a strict no sugar diet. 5 years later, she has no sign of cancer. Of course, she also had standard surgery and chemo. But I wouldn't be in the least surprised if the no sugar diet slowed the cancer down enough for the chemo/surgery to be more effective.

did she go on a strict no sugar diet specifically as a supplementary treatment to the metastatic cancer? and if so, what guidance was she following?

Yes, as a supplementary treatment. She still did all the traditional treatments recommended by her oncologist. She wrote a book about her method and experience, "Thriver Soup" by Heidi Bright.

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Post by Alex3917 »

dnautics wrote: post #4

This is probably why cannabinoids are likely to have a synergistic effect in treating some (but not all) cancers when used in concert with immunotherapies and chemotherapies... The cannabinoid receptors connect into the akt system and modulate cell energy use. In vitro, some cancer cell lines are eradicated by cannabinoids, probably in vivo it's more complicated but weakening the cells probably helps.

Interestingly, cannabinoid antagonists also show some preclinical success.

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Post by dnautics »

Alex3917 wrote: post #12
dnautics wrote: post #4

This is probably why cannabinoids are likely to have a synergistic effect in treating some (but not all) cancers when used in concert with immunotherapies and chemotherapies... The cannabinoid receptors connect into the akt system and modulate cell energy use. In vitro, some cancer cell lines are eradicated by cannabinoids, probably in vivo it's more complicated but weakening the cells probably helps.

Interestingly, cannabinoid antagonists also show some preclinical success.

that also makes sense. If you tweak finely tuned energy use in either direction, then things will break.

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Post by SherlockeHolmes »

I am very sorry for your loss.

my (armchair) analysis on cancer treatment - i) chemotherapy, in vacuum, most likely does considerably more harm than good, ii) sugar feeds cancer cells, iii) essential to feed body nutrients from a variety of sources (all must be plant based and non-processed), iv) it is likely a prudent investment to engage in holistic treatments such as being immersed in positivity and fulfilled environment and ingesting plant products with powerful healing properties known to locals across the world.

Having said all this, it is difficult to say no to conventional treatment and to MDs working at prestigious hospitals when the life of your loved one is at stake.

I have multiple cancer patients in my extended family, and this is in a family that lives on a south Asian diet (with all kinds of spices and turmeric, lots of vegetables). the cancer epidemic is extremely scary, and makes me feel vulnerable with my life - regardless of how knowledgeable I try to be on the subject.

My belief is that we must approach cancer as we have approached infectious diseases such as measles and whooping cough. We must identify carcinogens in our environment (this may be physical and spiritual), and take serious steps to remove them from our social construct.

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Post by numair »

I was recently shocked and practically offended to read guidelines on what to eat while undergoing chemo[1]. It was a high-sugar diet, basically (milkshakes were encouraged!). I couldn't imagine anything worse than shocking your body with radiation, and then providing cancer cells with all the sugar they need for growth. Hopefully the ideas in this article start to affect public health policy and guidelines.

1: http://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/resources/patient-informat...

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Post by copperx »

WalterBright wrote: post #3

A family member of mine was diagnosed with metastatic cancer and told to get her affairs in order. She went on a strict no sugar diet. 5 years later, she has no sign of cancer. Of course, she also had standard surgery and chemo. But I wouldn't be in the least surprised if the no sugar diet slowed the cancer down enough for the chemo/surgery to be more effective.

Ketogenic diets have only proven beneficial for certain brain tumors. What kind of cancer did she have?

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Post by nawitus »

WalterBright wrote: post #11
cloudjacker wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

did she go on a strict no sugar diet specifically as a supplementary treatment to the metastatic cancer? and if so, what guidance was she following?

Yes, as a supplementary treatment. She still did all the traditional treatments recommended by her oncologist. She wrote a book about her method and experience, "Thriver Soup" by Heidi Bright.

Was this no refined sugar or no sugar at all?

Re: An Old Idea, Revived: Starve Cancer to Death

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Post by e40 »

nawitus wrote: post #19
WalterBright wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, as a supplementary treatment. She still did all the traditional treatments recommended by her oncologist. She wrote a book about her method and experience, "Thriver Soup" by Heidi Bright.

Was this no refined sugar or no sugar at all?

My guess it was a very low carb diet. The only difference between refined sugar in a soft drink and break is how fast the sugars get into your blood.
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