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Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by zeemonkee3 » Sat, May 14, 2016, 1:47 PM UTC

LargeCompanies wrote: post #14

Maybe the author is not a coder? LinkedIn is incredibly useful due to recruiters hitting up us coders a few times a week selling us on some new and better job then the one you have currently. It's how you can give yourself a huge raise with each new job or contract job you decide to pursue & land. I often wonder if those in other fields outside of coding experience a similar flood of opportunities or not?

I think you forgot the /s at the end of your post. Linkedin has brought me nothing but spam.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by incepted » Sat, May 14, 2016, 1:48 PM UTC

AznHisoka wrote: post #20

incepted wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have not suffered in any way You don't really know that, maybe you missed out on interesting jobs and you'll never know. At the very least, receiving recruiter emails from LinkedIn allows me to do networking and meet a lot of influential people at various companies, even if I don't end up landing a job there. It also builds my recruiter network, which is never a bad thing: if I ever need a job one day, I am plann…

If his current situation is good who cares what other jobs he missed out on? More options isn't always worth the sacrifice of being distracted

Not always, but how distracting is it really?

Obviously, everyone will be different but I get 2-3 emails from recruiters on LinkedIn per week. Managing them takes me about one minute per week.

Compared to the number of times where I ended up on a phone call or having lunch/coffee with a CTO, VP of Eng, architect or senior engineer, it's totally worth it to me.

My suggestion: don't cut out that option until it really becomes unmanageable. Chances are you'll find it's worth the occasional disturbance.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by jroseattle » Sat, May 14, 2016, 1:56 PM UTC

I think LinkedIn really missed the opportunity to change the way our culture thinks about work and professional communication.

Another commenter called LI a glorified resume service, which really nails the point. Resumes from 20 years ago are no different from the current LinkedIn profile; the only incremental signal is the connection base...and that's only a signal if that information is public.

The fact that LinkedIn's big revenue draw is simply recruiters paying for access to the full network is really indicative of the lack of creativity in changing the paradigm of thought around professional networks.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by mratzloff » Sat, May 14, 2016, 2:00 PM UTC

blowski wrote: post #2

A few years back, I found myself saying to a friend "I have no choice but to have a LinkedIn account". I realised how ridiculous that was, and within days, I deleted the account. I have not suffered in any way since, and have definitely benefited from not having constant spammy job offers.

Most recruiters are lazy and just blast emails by language keyword search. No, I'm not interested in a 6-month PHP contract. No, I'm not interested in a junior IT role.

I've found that removing any mention of specific languages and technologies has dramatically reduced the number of job offers, all of which were a complete waste of my time. Now if only recruiters would stop offering me my same title at a 20% pay cut, I'd be fine.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by thaumasiotes » Sat, May 14, 2016, 2:02 PM UTC

joezydeco wrote: post #15

LargeCompanies wrote: post #14

Maybe the author is not a coder? LinkedIn is incredibly useful due to recruiters hitting up us coders a few times a week selling us on some new and better job then the one you have currently. It's how you can give yourself a huge raise with each new job or contract job you decide to pursue & land. I often wonder if those in other fields outside of coding experience a similar flood of opportunities or not?

...recruiters hitting up us coders a few times a week selling us on some new and better job... Let's not fail to mention recruiters that cold call you at your place of employment , and are too dense to understand why you might possibly be upset at this.

Google called me at my place of employment to let me know they weren't interested in hiring me. That seemed a little off.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by LargeCompanies » Sat, May 14, 2016, 2:03 PM UTC

colinbartlett wrote: post #8

krutulis wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have had the same experience after deleting my account several years ago (for different reasons). I do keep wondering if it will pop up as an issue, so I'm very curious about other people's experiences when not participating in LinkedIn.

I had a LinkedIn account ages ago but found it useless and chock full of recruiter spam. It was the first of all my social networks to go. I am always astonished when I hear phrases like "it's required". Really? By whom? I'm glad to hear there are other people out there who don't have it, because all I hear about is the other side: People bemoaning LinkedIn's existence but parroting this idea that their professional…

We're u getting 100s a week?

I don't understand fellow coders who view recruiters as a nuisance when u can use them to get a way better deal on your next gig.

With my LinkedIn I am vague re: where I currently work and provide them all with my spam contact info(spam email and spam google voice number that is a voicemail box which messages go to my email).

Maybe it's the volume of recruiters? I get ten a week and enjoy seeing what they can do for me.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by joezydeco » Sat, May 14, 2016, 2:13 PM UTC

LargeCompanies wrote: post #19

joezydeco wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...recruiters hitting up us coders a few times a week selling us on some new and better job... Let's not fail to mention recruiters that cold call you at your place of employment , and are too dense to understand why you might possibly be upset at this.

Why would u ever give them your work number, personal phone number or real email address? Give them your spam info...google voice number and spam email account. Further I've never experienced a recruiter calling my current place of work (wouldn't he or she be fired?) and I often am and or can be vague re: where I'm actually working. Especially if you note you are working for some random govt. or contracting company.

I list my current company, branch location, and personal email address NOT my company one. No phone numbers at all.

Recruiters will still call the main company number and ask to be transferred to me. We're not a large place, so a receptionist physically takes the call. Oh yeah, she also serves as secretary for the VPs and our HR department.

And I still get email at my company address. We have a pretty standard first.last@company format.

I could choose to obsfucate my employer and location, but IMO that kind of defeats the purpose of keeping my profile current.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by LargeCompanies » Sat, May 14, 2016, 2:20 PM UTC

LargeCompanies wrote: post #19

joezydeco wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...recruiters hitting up us coders a few times a week selling us on some new and better job... Let's not fail to mention recruiters that cold call you at your place of employment , and are too dense to understand why you might possibly be upset at this.

Why would u ever give them your work number, personal phone number or real email address? Give them your spam info...google voice number and spam email account. Further I've never experienced a recruiter calling my current place of work (wouldn't he or she be fired?) and I often am and or can be vague re: where I'm actually working. Especially if you note you are working for some random govt. or contracting company.

Well that while your not looking(Put that on your LinkedIn .. Not looking)those crazy outlandish recruiter calls you say happen should be an alarm to your current company! Better keep you happy or your find something better.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by home_boi » Sat, May 14, 2016, 2:27 PM UTC

abhi3 wrote: post #4

One thing I find surprising is how most people will have completely relaxed privacy controls on LinkedIn vs FB&others Better make my instagram private so no one can see my cat and food photos but hey let me put my entire CV and educational history along with contact info on the internet for anyone to look up

Because your LinkedIn is optimized to make you look professional while the other social networks are not.

Re: All LinkedIn with Nowhere to Go

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Post by kristianc » Sat, May 14, 2016, 2:28 PM UTC

I wonder what kind of job opportunity it is that's both:

1) Worth following up on

2) Not worth the recruiter going to the trouble of finding your contact details through GitHub/your personal site.

It seems like the very lowest common denominator way of finding people, which would suggest that it would also have the lowest common denominator applicants, and the lowest common denominator jobs.

Much of this thread is 'What might you be missing out on' but I see developers who have chosen to own their own career identity and not federate it through a platform that every other attention seeking bozo is on doing just fine.