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Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by dexterdog »

ceejayoz wrote: post #100
dexterdog wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a thing with an ID that sends a single event. How much can the protocol evolve?

Maybe the next version will have a thumbprint scanner so it knows who initiated the event. Maybe multiple buttons will be in a mesh network and send data about the other devices they're in contact with. I highly doubt we've seen the final feature set for IoT buttons.

But why would you deprecate the ability of a button to send a single event since that's what buttons do. Coordinating them in a mesh should be done outside of the device so it still works as a simple signaler.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by tracker1 »

ecaron wrote: post #94
ecaron wrote: post #24

I hacked one of these to power the nightlight in my kid's bedroom ( https://github.com/ecaron/hue-website-nightlights ). The downside is that the button barely lasts for 1000 presses = 90 days (all kids like pushing buttons). And it is heart breaking because its just a AAA battery that they decided to solder in place... I'm excited that this button launched. But $20 is too much for something without a swappable batte…

Follow-up: This thread is getting a fair amount of heat, and let me foremost say that I love the button and think it'd work for the vast majority of people. Just as a child's nightlight, he pushes it probably 10 days a day (potty breaks, bad dreams, is it time to get up yet, etc). I'd also wager that my ARP-interception causes the board to consume more just the norm.

10x a day means it'll last about 4 months... do you really want to have to pay $20 every 4 months for this thing?

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by ecaron »

tracker1 wrote: post #122
ecaron wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Follow-up: This thread is getting a fair amount of heat, and let me foremost say that I love the button and think it'd work for the vast majority of people. Just as a child's nightlight, he pushes it probably 10 days a day (potty breaks, bad dreams, is it time to get up yet, etc). I'd also wager that my ARP-interception causes the board to consume more just the norm.

10x a day means it'll last about 4 months... do you really want to have to pay $20 every 4 months for this thing?

Certainly not. I'll keep using the $5 counterpart and intercepting the packets in an inglorious-but-it-works way.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by seangrogg »

brokentone wrote: post #118
seangrogg wrote: post #117

It's a $19 button that lasts ~1000 presses and can be used to trigger events on Lambda (which are free for the first million, so no real issue). So what you're getting is a cost of $0.019 per press. Compared to a button on a webapp (which can be pressed from your phone) that, when pressed, goes through API Gateway and then hits up Lambda? At which point you're paying $0.0000035 per press. Decisions, decisions...

Will you be permanently mounting your phone where you want to trigger these events?

Of course. It's called my pocket. Did it ages ago.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by mavhc »

radarsat1 wrote: post #108

wwwwhaa.... what IS this? > For example, you can click the button to unlock or start a car, open your garage door, call a cab, call your spouse or a customer service representative I'm so confused. So now, to open the garage door, I buy an internet device, and when i click it, it sends a message to a server, charges me 0.02$, runs some kind of "cloud" script that executes some kind of "rules", registers something in…

I use https://www.facebook.com/clickotrigger/ which is bluetooth, has internet connectivity as an option. Sadly the company appears to be dead now. Was cheaper than buying a replacement garage door key fob

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by Crespyl »

brokentone wrote: post #118
seangrogg wrote: post #117

It's a $19 button that lasts ~1000 presses and can be used to trigger events on Lambda (which are free for the first million, so no real issue). So what you're getting is a cost of $0.019 per press. Compared to a button on a webapp (which can be pressed from your phone) that, when pressed, goes through API Gateway and then hits up Lambda? At which point you're paying $0.0000035 per press. Decisions, decisions...

Will you be permanently mounting your phone where you want to trigger these events?

I have already (effectively) permanently mounted my phone on me.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by mahyarm »

staticelf wrote: post #64
bschwindHN wrote: post #52

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From the Amazon official page ( https://aws.amazon.com/iot/button/ ): How long will the battery last? The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses. When the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or replace the battery. How can you sell a button that has only 1000 presses in it for $20 with a straight face? Looks like overcomplicated, overpriced garbage to me.

From an environmental perspective, it is completely retarded I would say. I don't get why people like Amazon, none of their services are any good. Although to be fair, Amazon (the retail) doesn't exist in my country.

AWS is a pretty popular service ;)

Amazon cloud drive is fairly performant and a good price. I use it as a backup repo. Amazon prime shipping is also pretty great and the prices are pretty decent usually. They're also the biggest cross platform ebook vendor with the most selection.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

jessegavin wrote: post #120
abhixec wrote: post #106

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me too

me three

Fourth.

I kinda wanted one in the hopes that if it worked well, I could theoretically get a lot more to trigger actions for things with my Z-Wave setup.

20$/each isn't amazing but its not exactly terrible for this. But 20$/each/year (or less!), horrible.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by moondev »

kstenerud wrote: post #114

Just the number of points of failure in this pipeline relegates this to toy status at best. WIFI interruption? Button doesn't work. Internet connection down? Button doesn't work. Bad network congestion? Button doesn't work. Amazon suffering DDOS? Button doesn't work. Battery dies? Button doesn't work. Too many presses? Button doesn't work. Misconfigured server? Button doesn't work. Certificate expiry? Button doesn't…

What were you planning on doing with this? Launch a shuttle?

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by karmicthreat »

ecaron wrote: post #24

I hacked one of these to power the nightlight in my kid's bedroom ( https://github.com/ecaron/hue-website-nightlights ). The downside is that the button barely lasts for 1000 presses = 90 days (all kids like pushing buttons). And it is heart breaking because its just a AAA battery that they decided to solder in place... I'm excited that this button launched. But $20 is too much for something without a swappable batte…

I love my particle. I'm even using it in production now for measuring remote process levels (ultrasonic level sensors, flow meters). I'll probably have 100-200 in the field by the end of the year.
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