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Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by danvoell »

radarsat1 wrote: post #108

wwwwhaa.... what IS this? > For example, you can click the button to unlock or start a car, open your garage door, call a cab, call your spouse or a customer service representative I'm so confused. So now, to open the garage door, I buy an internet device, and when i click it, it sends a message to a server, charges me 0.02$, runs some kind of "cloud" script that executes some kind of "rules", registers something in…

It does seem a little odd. Why not a button on your phone. Or your Alexa. Or why have a button at all. The only possible reason why they are promoting this is to get people to understand the code and architecture and program it into other things or for hobbyist projects.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

ceejayoz wrote: post #101
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd have to order an awful lot of toilet paper to have it only last 10 years. Even at a rate of one-press-per-week, it'll last getting on for 20 years.

The sample use cases for these buttons is more frequent use than the Dash "order me something" ones.

But do they use a different protocol?

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by throwaway7767 »

mnglkhn2 wrote: post #109
radarsat1 wrote: post #108

wwwwhaa.... what IS this? > For example, you can click the button to unlock or start a car, open your garage door, call a cab, call your spouse or a customer service representative I'm so confused. So now, to open the garage door, I buy an internet device, and when i click it, it sends a message to a server, charges me 0.02$, runs some kind of "cloud" script that executes some kind of "rules", registers something in…

Maybe the future they envision for you is to be able to open your garage door while you are not in its proximity. Or to let your car open the garage door on its own, after you summon it. Who knows, soon enough, the cars will have a life of their own, going on nightly strolls and self mechanic check-ups. :)

There's no need to involve remote servers for your self-driving car to open your garage door. It can do it the same way you currently do, with an RF signal.

I'm sure we can concoct some contrived examples where one needs to open a garage door without being present, but I really think this is more about the big tech companies trying to get vendor lock-in.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by kstenerud »

Just the number of points of failure in this pipeline relegates this to toy status at best.

WIFI interruption? Button doesn't work.

Internet connection down? Button doesn't work.

Bad network congestion? Button doesn't work.

Amazon suffering DDOS? Button doesn't work.

Battery dies? Button doesn't work.

Too many presses? Button doesn't work.

Misconfigured server? Button doesn't work.

Certificate expiry? Button doesn't work.

"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." - Montgomery Scott

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by x2398dh1 »

bschwindHN wrote: post #52
ecaron wrote: post #24

I hacked one of these to power the nightlight in my kid's bedroom ( https://github.com/ecaron/hue-website-nightlights ). The downside is that the button barely lasts for 1000 presses = 90 days (all kids like pushing buttons). And it is heart breaking because its just a AAA battery that they decided to solder in place... I'm excited that this button launched. But $20 is too much for something without a swappable batte…

From the Amazon official page ( https://aws.amazon.com/iot/button/ ): How long will the battery last? The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses. When the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or replace the battery. How can you sell a button that has only 1000 presses in it for $20 with a straight face? Looks like overcomplicated, overpriced garbage to me.

> no way to recharge or replace the battery.

No way at all in the entire universe not even with hand tools and a soldering iron?

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by seangrogg »

It's a $19 button that lasts ~1000 presses and can be used to trigger events on Lambda (which are free for the first million, so no real issue). So what you're getting is a cost of $0.019 per press.

Compared to a button on a webapp (which can be pressed from your phone) that, when pressed, goes through API Gateway and then hits up Lambda? At which point you're paying $0.0000035 per press.

Decisions, decisions...

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by brokentone »

seangrogg wrote: post #117

It's a $19 button that lasts ~1000 presses and can be used to trigger events on Lambda (which are free for the first million, so no real issue). So what you're getting is a cost of $0.019 per press. Compared to a button on a webapp (which can be pressed from your phone) that, when pressed, goes through API Gateway and then hits up Lambda? At which point you're paying $0.0000035 per press. Decisions, decisions...

Will you be permanently mounting your phone where you want to trigger these events?

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by akman »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #72

Better Alternatives ( from comments and searching on google): Amazon Dash button 5 $ - for shopping on amazon, hacks found for ifttt integration ( integrated with buying on amazon) : http://www.amazon.com/b?node=10667898011 https://www.particle.io/button 20 $ , integrated with ifttt Product: ESP8266 => DIY 7$ IFTTT ( https://www.hackster.io/noelportugal/esp8266-ifttt-easy-butt... , https://hackaday.io/project/5673-es…

>https://www.particle.io/button 20 $

Since this was mentioned elsewhere in the thread, this is actually $49. With a little work, the $19 Photon could certainly do the same.

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