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Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by mathheaven »

fnbr wrote: post #48
Bombthecat wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, what? So, we are basically moving from this which could last decades to stuff which stops working after 1000 presses? And people say we are not moving to planned obculence ( sorry, don't know the English word for it)

The word is "obsolescence." (I wouldn't be able to say it any any other language!)

Planned obsolescence = obsolescencia planeada in Spanish, designing purposely a product that won't last to get money through client's pockets. Examples with ink for printers was on courts.

Re: AWS IoT Button

#62

Post by reitanqild »

notatoad wrote: post #49
dmritard96 wrote: post #43

Our Puck ( https://flair.co/products/puck ) is sorta like this but with a small display. Instead of a generic button its a bit like a generic knob. So far positioned more as a heating and cooling device but I know I am excited to open it up to developers.

At 3x the price (or 12x the price of a hacked button), it's not really in the same market as the dash button though

No, it sounds way better:

Puck Specifications

Communication

=============

Bluetooth Beacon for occupant awareness

Wifi (Puck can act as its own gateway, no hub needed)

915MHz Radio for device to device communication

Infrared (IR) record/playback

Sensors

=======

Temperature

Humidity

Pressure

Ambient Light

Interaction

===========

Rotation and Click E-ink Display <---- added

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by reitanqild »

dmritard96 wrote: post #43

Our Puck ( https://flair.co/products/puck ) is sorta like this but with a small display. Instead of a generic button its a bit like a generic knob. So far positioned more as a heating and cooling device but I know I am excited to open it up to developers.

That was one really nifty device.

Your site mentions device to device comms. Is this user programmable?

Also display only shows temp. Are there other options?

Re: AWS IoT Button

#64

Post by staticelf »

bschwindHN wrote: post #52
ecaron wrote: post #24

I hacked one of these to power the nightlight in my kid's bedroom ( https://github.com/ecaron/hue-website-nightlights ). The downside is that the button barely lasts for 1000 presses = 90 days (all kids like pushing buttons). And it is heart breaking because its just a AAA battery that they decided to solder in place... I'm excited that this button launched. But $20 is too much for something without a swappable batte…

From the Amazon official page ( https://aws.amazon.com/iot/button/ ): How long will the battery last? The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses. When the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or replace the battery. How can you sell a button that has only 1000 presses in it for $20 with a straight face? Looks like overcomplicated, overpriced garbage to me.

From an environmental perspective, it is completely retarded I would say.

I don't get why people like Amazon, none of their services are any good. Although to be fair, Amazon (the retail) doesn't exist in my country.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by wastedhours »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #14

I'm glad they accepted that people were already hacking [1] their cheap Dash buttons and decided to roll with it. It's 4 times more expensive than their hackable Dash buttons ($20 vs $5), but apparently more powerful (and secure?) from the get-go. [1] For example, see all the entries: https://hackaday.com/tag/amazon-dash/

Would also assume (even if not from a BoM perspective) that the standard Dash buttons are cheaper as they're subsidised by the sale of the products?

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by deanCommie »

staticelf wrote: post #64
bschwindHN wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the Amazon official page ( https://aws.amazon.com/iot/button/ ): How long will the battery last? The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses. When the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or replace the battery. How can you sell a button that has only 1000 presses in it for $20 with a straight face? Looks like overcomplicated, overpriced garbage to me.

From an environmental perspective, it is completely retarded I would say. I don't get why people like Amazon, none of their services are any good. Although to be fair, Amazon (the retail) doesn't exist in my country.

> none of their services are any good

Care to back that statement up? :)

(no argument on the environmentally subpar approach to the button)

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by staticelf »

deanCommie wrote: post #66
staticelf wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From an environmental perspective, it is completely retarded I would say. I don't get why people like Amazon, none of their services are any good. Although to be fair, Amazon (the retail) doesn't exist in my country.

> none of their services are any good Care to back that statement up? :) (no argument on the environmentally subpar approach to the button)

Well, it's a subjective statement as it is my opinion. But for me as a Swede:

* The closest retail in Amazon is in GB or Germany, orders takes weeks to reach me which is a mystery since I've ordered stuff from Germany before and they usual deliver within a week.

* Closest AWS datacenter is in Ireland, latency is high for nordic countries.

* Their documentation is very confusing, you can read all about their web services without understanding one. Leading to sites like this: https://www.expeditedssl.com/aws-in-plain-english

But sure, their services works and is probably good for many, but I've never found them any useful at all.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by aquadrop »

bschwindHN wrote: post #52
ecaron wrote: post #24

I hacked one of these to power the nightlight in my kid's bedroom ( https://github.com/ecaron/hue-website-nightlights ). The downside is that the button barely lasts for 1000 presses = 90 days (all kids like pushing buttons). And it is heart breaking because its just a AAA battery that they decided to solder in place... I'm excited that this button launched. But $20 is too much for something without a swappable batte…

From the Amazon official page ( https://aws.amazon.com/iot/button/ ): How long will the battery last? The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses. When the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or replace the battery. How can you sell a button that has only 1000 presses in it for $20 with a straight face? Looks like overcomplicated, overpriced garbage to me.

I can't believe they do it either. It's a button. Its main purpose is to be pressed. They literally say it will cost you 2 cents per button push.

Re: AWS IoT Button

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Post by comboy »

aquadrop wrote: post #68
bschwindHN wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the Amazon official page ( https://aws.amazon.com/iot/button/ ): How long will the battery last? The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses. When the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or replace the battery. How can you sell a button that has only 1000 presses in it for $20 with a straight face? Looks like overcomplicated, overpriced garbage to me.

I can't believe they do it either. It's a button. Its main purpose is to be pressed. They literally say it will cost you 2 cents per button push.

And that is assuming your time spent on ordering and setting it up is worthless.
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