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Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Good to see Zuse on HN. It's possible to go and see his machines in Germany and I highly recommend it. This is a "forgotten" part of computing history because of WWII and deserves the light of day.

Also seems Turing and Zuse probably met in 1947: http://www.mathcomp.leeds.ac.uk/turing2012/Images/Turing_Zus...

Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Charles Babbage is as far as I know the uncontested inventor of the computer, which somehow even German schools teach about.

Was it Turing complete? Because Zuse's Z3 was. I'm not saying though, that this is a criteria for calling any machine a computer. But it's probably what sets Zuse's achievement apart. UPDATE: I've just learned that Babbage's language was also Turing complete. So Zuse's achievement is solely having physically built the first working computer, while Babbage's machine was never realized.

Babbage invented the concept of the programmable computer, Zuse built a programmable electronic computer, which could later be shown to be turing-complete. Those things are pretty subtle, and the 'national' version is always the least subtle, I guess ;)

Leonardo da Vinci also invented tanks and helicopters, and then it took a couple of hundred years to build some.

Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Good to see Zuse on HN. It's possible to go and see his machines in Germany and I highly recommend it. This is a "forgotten" part of computing history because of WWII and deserves the light of day.

Also seems Turing and Zuse probably met in 1947: http://www.mathcomp.leeds.ac.uk/turing2012/Images/Turing_Zus...

The article makes it sound like he waterboarded him, but that's probably just because the word 'interrogate' has become so unpredictably uncivilized in recent usage.

Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Good to see Zuse on HN. It's possible to go and see his machines in Germany and I highly recommend it. This is a "forgotten" part of computing history because of WWII and deserves the light of day.

Agree. The Z3 is exhibited at the Deutsches Museum in Munich: http://www.deutsches-museum.de/en/exhibitions/communication/... Here's the Z3 in action (German only, try subtitles): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXnhVrT4CI

I can highly recommend a visit there. Not only you can see an original Z4 and a replica of the Z3, but also lot's of more science and history related exhibitions. Don't miss the Enigma!

Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Zuse is an interesting example of history being written by the victors. Ask any German who invented the computer and they'll tell you it was Konrad Zuse, but he is almost completely unknown elsewhere.

Turing did brilliant work, but Zuse did the job of Turing and Tommy Flowers, working in isolation with very limited resources.

Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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post #4

Good to see Zuse on HN. It's possible to go and see his machines in Germany and I highly recommend it. This is a "forgotten" part of computing history because of WWII and deserves the light of day.

Agree. The Z3 is exhibited at the Deutsches Museum in Munich: http://www.deutsches-museum.de/en/exhibitions/communication/... Here's the Z3 in action (German only, try subtitles): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXnhVrT4CI

The Deutsches Technikmuseum in Berlin has a reconstruction of the Z1.

http://www.sdtb.de/Mathematics-and-Computer-Science.1256.0.h...

Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Zuse is an interesting example of history being written by the victors. Ask any German who invented the computer and they'll tell you it was Konrad Zuse, but he is almost completely unknown elsewhere. Turing did brilliant work, but Zuse did the job of Turing and Tommy Flowers, working in isolation with very limited resources.

As can be seen on Wikipedia: [1] vs. [2] - the English version of "computer science" does not mention Zuse. Time to change?

Similarly, the German version of "Computer" mentions Zuse 20 times [3]; the English version starts describing the Z2 [4].

Quite fascinating how Wikipedia is written through the local lense.

[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informatik#Entwicklung_moderne...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science

[3] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer#Electromechanical

Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Also of interest are some of his other innovations:

- Plankalkuel, by some criteria the first high-level programming language [1].

- Digital physics [2]. I have no idea if this is taken seriously by physicists.

- First chess program, predating Wiener, Shannon and Turing [3].

- First implementation of floating point numbers [4].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankalkül

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculating_Space

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_chess#Chronology

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point#History

Re: Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago

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Good to see Zuse on HN. It's possible to go and see his machines in Germany and I highly recommend it. This is a "forgotten" part of computing history because of WWII and deserves the light of day.

Agree. The Z3 is exhibited at the Deutsches Museum in Munich: http://www.deutsches-museum.de/en/exhibitions/communication/... Here's the Z3 in action (German only, try subtitles): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXnhVrT4CI

Z22 is at ZKM in Karlsruhe, but Deutsches Museum has a whole department on Z3 and related machines. I can highly recommend it to anyone interested in (very) early computers!
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