Concerns for global spread of Zika mean Rio de Janeiro Olympics must not proceed

Post by solipsism » Wed, May 11, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

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Source? The WHO information about it doesn't sounds like it has to feel all that bad http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/zika/en/ People with Zika virus disease can have symptoms that can include mild fever, skin rash, conjunctivitis, muscle and joint pain, malaise or headache. […] Treatment Zika virus disease is usually relatively mild and requires no specific treatment. People sick with Zika virus should get…

Just replying to one for all of the above: Zika symptoms has nothing to do with Dengue, it's really awful, the person cannot even walk right, the person stays bad in bed then they get better slowly, it's a lot different from Dengue, but also depends because there's a type 3 of Dengue which is almost the same as Zika.

Post by SCAQTony » Wed, May 11, 2016, 6:54 PM UTC

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I would expect the differences you mention to result in a higher delta for Rio, they would contribute to a lower base rate of travel making the event travel relatively larger.

When I wrote my original comment I certainly had a model that the base rate of travel was pretty comparable to LDN, but I looked at actual figures from a few years ago and saw that it is in fact 5x smaller. Nevertheless, the 500,000 figure cited would represent a ~25% bump in the number of visitors (if we use 2012 figures). If you consider the area in Brazil most affected by Zika (which would include São Paulo), then…

Post by ramon » Wed, May 11, 2016, 6:59 PM UTC

solipsism wrote: post #191

ramon wrote: post #162

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Just replying to one for all of the above: Zika symptoms has nothing to do with Dengue, it's really awful, the person cannot even walk right, the person stays bad in bed then they get better slowly, it's a lot different from Dengue, but also depends because there's a type 3 of Dengue which is almost the same as Zika.

More facts from http://www.cdc.gov/zika/symptoms/ * Most people infected with Zika virus won’t even know they have the disease because they won’t have symptoms. * The illness is usually mild with symptoms lasting for several days to a week. * People usually don’t get sick enough to go to the hospital You believe your friends had Zika. bit they may not have. Given the Zika epidemic, I wouldn't be surprised if lots of…

Post by neves » Wed, May 11, 2016, 7:08 PM UTC

Post by bertil » Wed, May 11, 2016, 7:19 PM UTC

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I'm not sure about the tone of that message, but I have lived in several cities where this was the case: Oslo, Singapore, Helsinki, Stockholm come to mind as places where even “dodgy” areas have had until recently very little instances of systematic robberies.

Can't say about the others, but I didn't feel much safer in Stockholm when I worked there for a couple of months in 2005. I didn't think it was particularly dangerous, but I would say the same of Rio.