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Re: Moxie Marlinspike Makes Encryption for Everyone

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is moxie's reply in that matter https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10665520

I can understand that he sets his own priorities. But in this case someone else took the sourcecode, built the app and published it to F-Droid. The only thing Moxie had to do was not threaten them with legal action.

The problem is that, at that point, Moxie couldn't confirm that the uploaded binary was the same one as packaged by their official release. Secure communication protocols are irrelevant if the client which you are communicating on is compromised.

Re: Moxie Marlinspike Makes Encryption for Everyone

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With people like Moxie the future doesn't look that bleak anymore. The guy is really dedicated to what he is doing and, quite honestly, it is pleasing to see someone in the tech community who is not egocentric around creating his online persona. I'm not trying to insult anyone, just expressing gratitude that there's people who care about code, not striving to become rock stars.

Re: Moxie Marlinspike Makes Encryption for Everyone

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post #9

Not for people who don't want Google on their device. He only wants distribution via Google, and even went as far to demand that free/libre Play-alternative F-droid removed their build of TextSecure. See: https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/

Here is moxie's reply in that matter https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10665520

>1) Make mass surveillance impossible.

By giving NSA the only thing what they want: metadata from Google

>2) Stop targeted attacks against crypto nerds.

Who don't have google services on their devices and don't use google chrome... yeah. Thanks for helping me so much.

The Senate is considering reauthorizing the law the NSA says authorizes it to collect hundreds of millions of online communications from providers like Facebook and Google as well as straight off the internet’s backbone:https://theintercept.com/2016/05/10/senate-kicks-off-debate-...

Re: Moxie Marlinspike Makes Encryption for Everyone

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post #9

Not for people who don't want Google on their device. He only wants distribution via Google, and even went as far to demand that free/libre Play-alternative F-droid removed their build of TextSecure. See: https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/

Here is moxie's reply in that matter https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10665520

He's doing great and useful work, there's no doubt. But requiring a phone number for an internet instant messenger is still a deal breaker even with Chromium as an alternative.

Re: Moxie Marlinspike Makes Encryption for Everyone

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Not for people who don't want Google on their device. He only wants distribution via Google, and even went as far to demand that free/libre Play-alternative F-droid removed their build of TextSecure. See: https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/

Huge deal breaker for me, regrettably.

Experiment with a reversed play services framework http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-micro...

Re: Moxie Marlinspike Makes Encryption for Everyone

#27
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, no. You could have a situation where there's a policy in place forbidding installing GPL-licensed products. (I don't have any info about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case at Microsoft a while ago.) EDIT: I'm getting downvotes and don't understand why. I'm seriously interested, can someone explain the reason?

That's the fault of the people making that policy, not the fault of the people licensing the code under GPL.

Pointing the finger somewhere different doesn't change the practical reality. The only question there is how likely a GPL ban is to actually affect you (seems small to me, to be honest, but I don't know).

Re: Moxie Marlinspike Makes Encryption for Everyone

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can understand that he sets his own priorities. But in this case someone else took the sourcecode, built the app and published it to F-Droid. The only thing Moxie had to do was not threaten them with legal action.

The problem is that, at that point, Moxie couldn't confirm that the uploaded binary was the same one as packaged by their official release. Secure communication protocols are irrelevant if the client which you are communicating on is compromised.

So actually, the only thing he could do is to publish a validated binary into F-droid.

Re: Moxie Marlinspike Makes Encryption for Everyone

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Not for people who don't want Google on their device. He only wants distribution via Google, and even went as far to demand that free/libre Play-alternative F-droid removed their build of TextSecure. See: https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/

Huge deal breaker for me, regrettably.

What are you going to use instead? Who are you going to talk to with it?
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