Since 99% of "conservative" news is manufactured by corporate America, then manipulated, packaged, (Often repackaged.) and presented by Faux News, I'm actually okay with this. It may be supporters of Drumph and company learn the hard way just how almost everything we enjoy as Americans is very much at jeopardy because of Corporate America pushing their agenda and only their agenda through their media outlets. In othe…
You couldn't be more wrong. If you actually cared and didn't choose your political view based on what'll look the best in a hashtag under your selfie, you'd quickly find out that ALL liberal politics are sponsored by multinational global corporations. Modern day conservatives are all about small business, small government and financial freedom.
Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
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Re: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
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i see no implication of interventionless "most popular." especially on facebook. each person's trending stories could be different and be presented based on what it thinks is popular AND applicable to you. all i see is "here is a subsample of some of our most popular stories." do you and your friends have the same trending stories at the same time? cuz i get regional stories. im sure my friends in other regions dont…
>especially on facebook. each person's trending stories could be different and be presented based on what it thinks is popular AND applicable to you. I would agree that this is a fair assumption to make about how it should work. >cuz i get regional stories. im sure my friends in other regions dont get those stories. Yes, that's no different than Google News. That's an entirely fair thing to do: tailor a person's feed…
just because a group of people start shouting about something loudly, and the shouting gets popular, doesnt mean facebook should choose to amplify it.
for example, think of mean girls. when gretchen is trying to make fetch happen, and regina says "Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen! It's not going to happen!" A group of likeminded people, say republicans in this example, could be trying to make someone appear popular by shouting their name a lot, ad nauseum. that doesnt make it newsworthy outside the echo chamber.
if the republican network is more coordinated and better at discussing one topic at at time than the democrats, they can push a story higher on the trending list. people being able to manipulate the trending list through coordination isnt ideal. if you want a gamified, competitive trending list, visit twitter. letting pure popularity and activity overrule common sense is foolhearted. i have never seen facebook claim their trending list behaved like twitter (which is where it seems you are getting your ideal trending behavior concept from.)
using humans to balance the trending stories, instead of letting one ideology take it over, is a good thing. but balance doesnt always mean fair or equal. myths dont deserve equal space to debunking. intelligent design doesnt automatically deserve equal placement to more accredited theories. if something is factually wrong, facebook can remove a story from trending to prevent its spread.
plus, algorithms are going to display some kind of bias. any sort of spam filter will disfavor certain noise. is blocking viagra ads bias? algorithms written by people will lean in SOME direction. believing in unbias is naive.
Re: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
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What about to the advertisers? If I were a well-funded news outlet with a conservative bias, and I spent money on Facebook, I'd be evaluating my legal options right about now...
I'm not sure this is an issue either. The advertisers were buying advertisements, not space on a trending list.
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Liberals do not maintain a cottage industry of complaining about the conservative conspiracy to suppress their viewpoints, whereas conservatives seemingly spend 100% of their time doing so. For example there are plenty of dead tree books like [1], extensive networks of people investigating Obama's place of birth, including the current American conservative leader and icon Donald Trump. Meanwhile there is a real, conc…
How about leftist anti-nuclear, anti-GMO, organic food pseudoscience? Nuclear power is the solution to fossil fuel emissions that doesn't require destroying our economy, but the left is the biggest obstacle to its development. Or how about the wage gap, which no serious economist actually thinks exists.
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That's simply not how discourse works on a national scale. There are many things that can be given a platform but aren't because it'd be a waste of time. No one is afraid to give these things a platform, it's just pointless. Artificial platforming for the sake of having every imaginable view point with or without merit on the table would be a disaster. No one is stopping people from having these opinions, speaking ab…
> No one is stopping people from having these opinions, speaking about them, or teaching those perspectives. You may not have been paying attention, but unfortunately that's not the case. https://www.thefire.org/list-of-campus-disinvitations-2000-2... http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/whats-new-about... http://www.mediaite.com/online/university-president-shuts-do... And I can link to many more examples if…
Re: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
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> No one is stopping people from having these opinions, speaking about them, or teaching those perspectives. You may not have been paying attention, but unfortunately that's not the case. https://www.thefire.org/list-of-campus-disinvitations-2000-2... http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/whats-new-about... http://www.mediaite.com/online/university-president-shuts-do... And I can link to many more examples if…
You linked to extremely far out there sites as your sources, and two of the stories were debunked the day they came out. Please do provide more examples.
thefire.org - An org dedicated to freedom of speech on campus, founded by University of Pennsylvania professor Alan Charles Kors and Boston civil liberties attorney Harvey Silverglate.
Spiked - a 15 year old UK publication with staff from the Daily Telegraph and the Spectator.
Mediaite - a popular and left-leaning online news source that aggregates mainstream news sources.
Come off it. A browse through the links above are ample for anyone concerned about the truth.
Re: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
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>especially on facebook. each person's trending stories could be different and be presented based on what it thinks is popular AND applicable to you. I would agree that this is a fair assumption to make about how it should work. >cuz i get regional stories. im sure my friends in other regions dont get those stories. Yes, that's no different than Google News. That's an entirely fair thing to do: tailor a person's feed…
having humans tagging certain stories as "not news" is not evil agenda based bias, it is spam filtering. just because a group of people start shouting about something loudly, and the shouting gets popular, doesnt mean facebook should choose to amplify it. for example, think of mean girls. when gretchen is trying to make fetch happen, and regina says "Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen! It's not going to happe…
Yes, if Facebook users shout about something loudly and it gets popular, FB has no right to squelch that just because they disagree with it. That's censorship.
If Democrat voters don't like the Republican-aimed news, FB can and should make sure their news feeds are tailored for users so that people don't see stuff from sources they think are junk and so their feeds are more tailored for them and their preferences. I have no problem with that. That's how Google News works; I can tell it to not show me news from crappy sites like Breitbart or WND. But it doesn't censor those sources against my will; if for some crazy reason I really liked those site, I could tell GN to show them to me, and I can set my preference for those sites to a higher factor. The whole key here is user choice: having some fedora-wearing hipster at Facebook telling me what I should and shouldn't be reading is asinine and condescending. Having the ability to configure my news feeds to show me what I want, and hide things I think are garbage, is absolutely correct however.
Re: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
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having humans tagging certain stories as "not news" is not evil agenda based bias, it is spam filtering. just because a group of people start shouting about something loudly, and the shouting gets popular, doesnt mean facebook should choose to amplify it. for example, think of mean girls. when gretchen is trying to make fetch happen, and regina says "Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen! It's not going to happe…
BS. "Spam" is advertising; news you don't agree with is not. Yes, if Facebook users shout about something loudly and it gets popular, FB has no right to squelch that just because they disagree with it. That's censorship. If Democrat voters don't like the Republican-aimed news, FB can and should make sure their news feeds are tailored for users so that people don't see stuff from sources they think are junk and so the…
Also, political avocation is marketing and can be spam. Unsolicited "Vote for Ted" emails are spam in my book.
Re: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
#339It really bothers me that acceptable forms of protests are now: intimidation(1), harassment(2), and subversion(this). If your cause is just, isn't a non-violent protest enough? Speaking about it, voting with your dollar, etc? 1) http://gizmodo.com/okcupid-tells-users-not-to-use-firefox-be... 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy
Re: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
#340Just a rant because I'm sick of the hypocrisy and double standards being perpetrated by the media and ignoramuses and I guess Facebook too - Black Lives matter is a racist, anarchist organization that engages in illegitimate and illegal protests, and whoever is funding them should be investigated and stand trial for supporting terrorist organizations.
Found the racist