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Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear after a year

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Re: Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear after a year

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Post by jamespo »

ChristianBundy wrote: post #47
aristus wrote: post #37

Long long ago I was a tattoo artist. With very careful needle adjustments, color choices, and a steady hand, this is already possible with conventional inks. Simple example: white ink is titanium oxide, basically sunscreen, and breaks down rapidly with exposure to UV. But you are still gonna have scarring and roughening. If you're gonna get ink, be prepared to have it for life. Also, testing on pigs? Like, live pigs?…

> Also, testing on pigs? Like, live pigs? I'd pay money to see that. :) Disgusting and shameful behavior, I can't believe that attitudes like this still exist.

Yes, I thought pig tattooing as a spectator sport died out in the 70s.

Re: Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear after a year

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

gjolund wrote: post #53
CitizenKane wrote: post #4

I'm torn. On one hand, this invention will keep a lot of people from making the very common mistake of getting ink they don't like and can't remove. On the other hand, a beautiful part of this art form is that it is basically permanent. To my mind, a tattoo loses a lot of its value of it's only temporary.

I agree, all of my tattoo's were carefully planned, expensive, and constant reminders of some very good memories. If it is temporary how is it any different than a hair cut?

I am pretty sure quite a lot of tattoos are just fashion accessories like the lower back tattoo, white guys with tribal tattoos, tattoos of chinese characters.

I live in Sydney and I've also noticed other sub-genres: - Middle class women with tattoos of silouettes of a flock of birds in flight. - Women who dress in 30s fashion with tattoos of swallows usually around their collar bones. I have not spotted any in the last few years. - Asian girls of the Lotita sub-culture with tattoos of antique cutlery.

Re: Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear after a year

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Post by gjolund »

Chris2048 wrote: post #116
gjolund wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are worried that you won't like your tattoo in 20 years, then you are correct in not getting one. If you are getting a tattoo because it looks cool right now, save your money and just get a better wardrobe.

Clothes are petty expensive tho

nowhere near as expensive as a well designed and executed tattoo.

Re: Ephemeral is developing tattoo ink designed to disappear after a year

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Post by Chris2048 »

gjolund wrote: post #123
Chris2048 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clothes are petty expensive tho

nowhere near as expensive as a well designed and executed tattoo.

It takes multiple items of clothing for a single outfit, so I'm not so sure about that.

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Post by masklinn »

danieltillett wrote: post #111
shultays wrote: post #110

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Well, 5000 years and counting.

I think tattoos are even older than this. Tattoos will continue to exist, but they won't be fashionable.

> I think tattoos are even older than this.

Ötzi is the oldest tattooed body we have and thus the oldest hard evidence of that practice.

While there is peripheral evidence of probable earlier tattooing (Cucuteni-Trypillian sculptures, and how wide-spread confirmed tattooing practices are circa 1000~2000BCE), we don't have anything hard before Ötzi (circa 3000BCE).

Incidentally, Ötzi's tattoos seem to be therapeutic rather than artistic.

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Post by antihero »

solipsism wrote: post #25

Oh good, even more barbed wire biceps, carp sleeves, black fore-arm stars, "tribal" patterns on white dudes, spiderwebs, hummingbirds, infinity symbols, and other ways for people to show how eager they are to express their "individuality"! Edit: Down-vote me if I offend your tattooed rebellious self-image, it's fine, but there's a real point to be made. This technology will lead to a lot more tattoos, and a lot more…

Alternatively, stop giving a fuck and let people do what they hell they want with their bodies. If you see yourself as above them because of it, that's your business.

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Post by cafard »

aristus wrote: post #37

Long long ago I was a tattoo artist. With very careful needle adjustments, color choices, and a steady hand, this is already possible with conventional inks. Simple example: white ink is titanium oxide, basically sunscreen, and breaks down rapidly with exposure to UV. But you are still gonna have scarring and roughening. If you're gonna get ink, be prepared to have it for life. Also, testing on pigs? Like, live pigs?…

A friend's daughter does tattooing, and from the friend I heard that apprentice artists work on pigskin. I had imagined footballs, but no, this is obtained from slaughterhouses or butchers. Anyway, I guess that footballs aren't made of pigskin.

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Post by maxerickson »

aristus wrote: post #37

Long long ago I was a tattoo artist. With very careful needle adjustments, color choices, and a steady hand, this is already possible with conventional inks. Simple example: white ink is titanium oxide, basically sunscreen, and breaks down rapidly with exposure to UV. But you are still gonna have scarring and roughening. If you're gonna get ink, be prepared to have it for life. Also, testing on pigs? Like, live pigs?…

Titanium dioxide does not break down in the presence of UV. Any fading would likely be from migration.

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Post by SolaceQuantum »

burfog wrote: post #105
SolaceQuantum wrote: post #104

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Single parenting and low-pay college degree choices aren't necessarily short term thinking, nor is obesity or tooth decay. Or debt. I think there is a wide brush and a lot of assumptions being made here, many of which can be harmful. For just one example, it's quite common for single parenting to actually just be a result of successfully escaping an abusive relationship.

Sure, "aren't necessarily", but likely to be strongly predictable. None of the things I list are 100% caused by anything, but lots of things in life can predict other things. For a real eye-opener, check what OkCupid's data says about people who like the taste of beer! For example, getting into that relationship in the first place was...? Were you ignoring warning signs and not really thinking about how reliable the…

Like I said, a lot of assumptions are being made here. Many of these have various common and easily brought up examples of how they're not necessarily an indication of the quality you're trying to sift for. By bringing a list of these not-really-indicating qualities there is going to be such a significant category of false positives that it may just look as if one is so eager to judge other lifestyles that they forget to perform basic critical thinking abd empathy.

Instead of attempting to brush off a wide range of people with very common and easily explained life qualities, why not assume people generally have reasons for the situations they're in? If there is a personality trait you dislike, one can practice observant behavior to analyze how the trait manifests in an individual and move on from there on how to deal with that individual. Trying to assume all individuals with a trait are the majority of people who may be in certain circumstances in life just seems like poor logic.

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Post by solipsism »

wpietri wrote: post #94
solipsism wrote: post #82

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You didn't like my ideas. You downvoted because you disagreed. I don't play like that, but that's how it works around here, fine. But the fact that you feel welcome to call a stranger you've never met a dick, and then attempt to engage in civil discourse with him, says more about you than it does about me. Pick one or the other next time. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names Most pe…

No, that's not calling you names. (That would be "You are a dick.") It's describing your behavior. "Being a dick" is a term of art. For many years, Wikipedia had a useful page called "Don't be a dick": https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Don%27t_be_a_je... They've more recently renamed it "don't be a jerk", so if your delicate sensibilities can't handle my original comment, feel free to read it as "jerk". In…

Grow up, man. It's unbelievable you'd spend your time arguing that "don't be a dick" isn't name-calling. This is third-grade material. Imagine what the teacher would say to a student making this argument... and apply it to yourself.

Maybe take a step back. Someone expressed an opinion you didn't like, but one that didn't attack anyone personally. You proceeded to immediately call that person a dick -- oh, sorry, you said he's being a dick, because that's a distinction that's meaningful in this world...

You seem like a smart guy, so I bet you'd agree that dissenting opinions are something we want around here. They make this place better. Truly out-of-line comments are handled with the downvote system (and I note, mine apparently wasn't widely perceived to be out of line, judging by the votes.. it was just controversial). Now, would you say saying people are being dicks also makes this place better? You can do better than that.

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