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Post by pilsetnieks »

abyssin wrote: post #117
pilsetnieks wrote: post #112

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Eggs will also not get salmonella if their natural protective coating is not washed away as per regulations in the US (vs Europe.) In fact, American eggs would be illegal in most European countries and vice versa - American eggs must be washed and refrigerated, whereas washing European eggs is prohibited. http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/09/11/336330502/why...

The rationale behind it being that European egg producers will put more care into making sure the raising site is actually clean.

I'm not so sure about that, we hear the same horror stories about factory farms as well. However, the chickens are vaccinated against salmonella, and that might have something to do with it.

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Post by VeejayRampay »

paulddraper wrote: post #32
rhinoceraptor wrote: post #7

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It's really freeing to realize you won't die if you skip a meal.

Your mental and physical stamina will be reduced though.

Not really no. Our bodies have not evolved since the point in time where the access to food was much more difficult, it is perfectly adapted to not getting energy intake regularly.

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Post by usaphp »

jcoffland wrote: post #116
usaphp wrote: post #101

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yup, but I honestly only add like a tablespoon of it to add texture to yogurt. It's more like a stress sort of headache that comes from not having food, I feel muscle stiffness in the neck which causes a headache, really weird

Most yogurt in America is heavy on sugar as well.

Yep, but not the greek one, I am eating this one: http://usa.fage.eu/yogurts/fage-total-plain#fage-total loads of protein and tastes great

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Post by visakanv »

jcoffland wrote: post #119

It's just amazing how much "common knowledge" about food has been shown to be completely wrong: * Breakfast is the most important meal [0] * Saturated fat is bad [1] * Carbs are evil [2] * You regain more weight after a fast diet [3] Many will argue but studies have show each one of these to be wrong. [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/10/the-s... [1]: http://www.eufic.org/page/en/show/latest-sc…

I think if there's one big idea about nutrition, it should be that there are no one-size-fits-all answers. I skipped breakfast for most of my childhood, and I had no idea why I was so lethargic all the time. I was typically anxious from undone schoolwork, etc and had no appetite in the morning. I'd self-medicate with cigarettes.

I started forcing myself to eat breakfast about a year ago and my mind is so much clearer, seemingly as a function of relatively-stabilized blood sugar levels.

But that's just me. It could be totally different for someone else.

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Post by agumonkey »

bbarn wrote: post #65

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Post by cronjobber »

bbarn wrote: post #65

I started to read this with some interest, as someone who's spent many hours thinking about and trying different metabolic strategies, diets, etc.. Then about 30 seconds in my reading got disrupted by a fucking light-box asking me to sign up or log in or god knows what.. my instinct to close tab won out over my curiosity. Please stop this pattern. If you really think your content is worth having to (whatever)wall fro…

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Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by fasteo »

visakanv wrote: post #124
jcoffland wrote: post #119

It's just amazing how much "common knowledge" about food has been shown to be completely wrong: * Breakfast is the most important meal [0] * Saturated fat is bad [1] * Carbs are evil [2] * You regain more weight after a fast diet [3] Many will argue but studies have show each one of these to be wrong. [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/10/the-s... [1]: http://www.eufic.org/page/en/show/latest-sc…

I think if there's one big idea about nutrition, it should be that there are no one-size-fits-all answers. I skipped breakfast for most of my childhood, and I had no idea why I was so lethargic all the time. I was typically anxious from undone schoolwork, etc and had no appetite in the morning. I'd self-medicate with cigarettes. I started forcing myself to eat breakfast about a year ago and my mind is so much clearer…

That was also my case as an adult. Solved by eating much more at night, carbs included. I was just not consuming enough calories.

So, another myth - carbs are bad at night - that did not apply to me.

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Post by paulddraper »

VeejayRampay wrote: post #122
paulddraper wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your mental and physical stamina will be reduced though.

Not really no. Our bodies have not evolved since the point in time where the access to food was much more difficult, it is perfectly adapted to not getting energy intake regularly.

That's just not true.

I can run much farther if I ate my previous meal than if I didn't.

And the effects of skipping breakfast on the cognition of children have been studied ad nauseam. A lengthy list: http://frac.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/breakfastforlearn...

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Post by ulrikrasmussen »

soared wrote: post #83
nihonde wrote: post #70

In Japan, I learned what a truly healthy breakfast is. Most days I eat a bowl of brown rice with a raw egg stirred in and a dash of high-quality soy sauce and topped with natto. Some days I'll also grill salmon or smelt. On the side, I usually have tsukemono (pickled vegetables) and miso soup. Protein, probiotics, pickles...once you get used to it, the idea of eating sweet desserts for breakfast (which is what most p…

I was curious if raw eggs were actually healthy after reading your comment. I was never allowed to eat raw eggs growing up. A little google-fu says he risk of salmonella is overstated and extremely rare, but the USDA and others still suggest avoiding raw eggs. Not much definitive on cooking vs. raw though.

The Danish Food Administration has per 2013 officially declared raw eggs safe to eat for consumers. The food industry still has to use pasteurized eggs though.

Even though I knew the risk of Salmonella was already minuscule, I use raw eggs in my cooking a lot more now (e.g. dressings, mayo, etc.). It is just a lot more convenient than having to buy pasteurized yolks and egg whites.

I don't know if raw eggs are truly safer to eat here in Denmark, or if the food administrations from other countries are just being overly conservative.

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Post by ak39 »

visakanv wrote: post #124
jcoffland wrote: post #119

It's just amazing how much "common knowledge" about food has been shown to be completely wrong: * Breakfast is the most important meal [0] * Saturated fat is bad [1] * Carbs are evil [2] * You regain more weight after a fast diet [3] Many will argue but studies have show each one of these to be wrong. [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/10/the-s... [1]: http://www.eufic.org/page/en/show/latest-sc…

I think if there's one big idea about nutrition, it should be that there are no one-size-fits-all answers. I skipped breakfast for most of my childhood, and I had no idea why I was so lethargic all the time. I was typically anxious from undone schoolwork, etc and had no appetite in the morning. I'd self-medicate with cigarettes. I started forcing myself to eat breakfast about a year ago and my mind is so much clearer…

This is true for parenting too. You cannot take cookie cut wisdom and apply (CROSS APPLY t-sql style) to all.

The wisdom has to be applied "Bayesian" style ... "Given subject with attributes x, y and z, apply optimisation function."

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