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How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by emag »

Aelinsaar wrote: post #11

Dropping breakfast from my diet as a regular thing, something as simple as just getting started later in the day on eating, has been incredibly helpful in losing (and maintaining lower) weight. It's not the only thing of course; generally eating smaller portions, and moving my butt more are the other two keys. Obsessing over exactly what I'm eating and how much has never helped, but just eating less... it sounds simp…

Even as a kid, I had to drop breakfast. For literally decades, the several hours after I woke up, I'd be nauseated. I cut out certain categories of foods, and now I can eat whatever I want from the remaining categories, but I've also picked up intermittent fasting in the meantime. So now I typically don't eat until sometime after 4pm, with the majority of my intake at dinner. It's working well for me, but my wife just can't handle it.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by tokensimian »

thomasjudge wrote: post #57

How did priceonomics become a thing.. this seems like a clickbait site for the more intellectual crowd, less trashy than say buzzfeed, but ultimately not really delivering much in the way of genuine insight. It probably doesn't hurt that the name recalls "freakonomics", another brand which, while occasionally interesting, is far past its pull date as well..

They tell their own story pretty well. Informative and interesting, pretty decent advice in there. Of course, no secret sauce, but that's overblown anyhow.

I find their articles very interesting, almost every time. Really high signal to noise, even if their content isn't always about weighty matters. I rather liked this one about breakfast, for instance: it taught me a lot about the historical development of breakfast.

Anyhow, not to tout these guys too much, but I do respect them for what they've done.

http://priceonomics.com/the-content-marketing-handbook/

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by awinter-py »

For mice (and presumably for certain other mammals), 12-hour daily fast seems to have positive outcomes.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/15/a-12-hour-window-fo...

The study suggests this is true even if you cheat on the weekend.

I'm super-dubious of evidence showing that breakfast improves school outcomes (except where it helps meet kids' calorie needs). You know what else boosts school outcomes? Sedatives, because school is hella boring. That doesn't mean sedating kids or adults is a good idea.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by manigandham »

hueving wrote: post #68
manigandham wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A few friends of mine fast intermittently and train in the morning before eating but it's beyond me how that is not just pure torture. Practice. If you've never done it before, it takes a few days/weeks to get used to. Also willpower.

Saying that willpower is a factor implies that it is unpleasant, which is actually agreeing with the implication of "pure torture" that the parent comment implied.

Not really, it has nothing to do with it being pleasant or not. It means that you need to commit to actually doing it (like anything in life).

I'm absolutely fine with it and prefer it, like many other people. It's definitely not "torture".

Maybe it isn't for some but mostly it's about overcoming the change in routine and there's no shortcut to changing or building habits, it's just willpower.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by erkkie »

biswaroop wrote: post #37

This may be an argument against breakfast for the sedentary, but athletes on extended training programs usually need to eat in the morning. You're much more likely to hit the wall on an empty stomach, a few hours into your training.

That is very much unsubstantiated, all kinds of athletes enjoy and thrive training fasted. It's probably much more complex in what's best for whom than just "much more likely to hit the wall". Type of metabolism, levels of fat adaption, type of activity, length of activity, etc all matters.

As an personal anecdote, I enjoy climbing in the mornings before having food, that's a few good hours of intermittent sprint type activity.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by edanm »

bbarn wrote: post #65

I started to read this with some interest, as someone who's spent many hours thinking about and trying different metabolic strategies, diets, etc.. Then about 30 seconds in my reading got disrupted by a fucking light-box asking me to sign up or log in or god knows what.. my instinct to close tab won out over my curiosity. Please stop this pattern. If you really think your content is worth having to (whatever)wall fro…

This company produces great, great content. You agree that it's interesting, from what you've read.

And yet apparently the most popular comment on their effort is that you don't want to spare the all-of-2 seconds it takes to click your mouse to close a pop-up? On a site that isn't plastered with ads, btw, and is generally very accessible?

I don't mean to take out my frustration on you, and I get where you're coming from, but maybe we as consumers should stop feeling so entitled, maybe that's the pattern that has to end here.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by spydum »

manopeace wrote: post #31
TACIXAT wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Caffeine too. People are proud of how addicted they are. I used to get headaches from it, I think a lot of people do, and there was just this wtf moment of "why do I abuse this stuff"? Great PR.

I say we ban caffine and tobacco. The war on drugs would be over in a week.

Who would win? In all seriousness I think you'd undo the last couple decades worth of productivity gains in just a couple days..

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by chuinard »

bbarn wrote: post #65

I started to read this with some interest, as someone who's spent many hours thinking about and trying different metabolic strategies, diets, etc.. Then about 30 seconds in my reading got disrupted by a fucking light-box asking me to sign up or log in or god knows what.. my instinct to close tab won out over my curiosity. Please stop this pattern. If you really think your content is worth having to (whatever)wall fro…

Funny, I was thinking the exact opposite after I had been on the site for 10 minutes or so.

It's sad that you get sites making 'slideshows' getting 20 page views per visit for stupid slideshows like 'Celebrities who have had DUIs'. Meanwhile, something educational and informational makes 5% as much as those other guys? Just because I have only loaded the page once?

You can't pay wall it, because then you don't get the 50,000 visits from HN. It sounds like a really tough position to be in.

Re: How Breakfast Became a Thing

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Post by solipsism »

edanm wrote: post #76
bbarn wrote: post #65

I started to read this with some interest, as someone who's spent many hours thinking about and trying different metabolic strategies, diets, etc.. Then about 30 seconds in my reading got disrupted by a fucking light-box asking me to sign up or log in or god knows what.. my instinct to close tab won out over my curiosity. Please stop this pattern. If you really think your content is worth having to (whatever)wall fro…

This company produces great, great content. You agree that it's interesting, from what you've read. And yet apparently the most popular comment on their effort is that you don't want to spare the all-of-2 seconds it takes to click your mouse to close a pop-up? On a site that isn't plastered with ads, btw, and is generally very accessible? I don't mean to take out my frustration on you, and I get where you're coming f…

Ve specifically said ve didn't mind a pay wall. Ve found the the mid-read interruption rude, which I think is totally fair.
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