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iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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Re: iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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A lot of people repeating that line will change their tune when Spotify finally goes out of business in a couple of years time.

And we will call this the golden decade of music access, as our children fetishize the 2010s

Yep it's only going to get tighter and tighter (legitimately so, IMHO).

Just like we fetishize the Napster era.

Re: iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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My experience is that iTunes can't handle anything but perfectly neat metadata about album versions of songs. Every time I've fed it live music, or alternate takes, or anything else weird, it's choked so badly that I ended up wishing for no organization.

Agreed, for a lot of people "no organization" is a feature unto itself. iTunes is famous for mangling already cleanly-organized collections of folders on disk, etc.

There has been an option since 2003 for iTunes not to copy songs into its own hierarchy and just leave files where they are.

Re: iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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I dunno. Reading this I can't help but feel like maybe the author is doing it wrong? I'm going to be charitable and admit that Apple has made iTunes incredibly difficult to use effectively, especially since the store is awful and they really, really push the iTunes store on you. That the interface is so slow and inconsistent doesn't help either. My advice to anyone who has any desire to use iTunes is: acquire your mu…

That's completely backwards. If you want control over your music library you would keep both of those options disabled.

Apple has been selling standard AAC non DRMd music since 2007. No AAC is not a proprietary Apple format. It is supported by everything under the sun and is licensed just like the MP3 format. Apple has nothing to do with the licensing.

Re: iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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There's still nothing better than iTunes, at least on OS X. It's the best of a bad bunch.

In the "don't delete my music" category - google music is pretty good. You can upload your files without deleting them and then stream from web or mobile app. I haven't tried playing offline from the browser, but caching on my phone is fine.

In the "don't delete my music" category - google music is pretty good.

It makes me sad that's even a category for consideration. wtf

Re: iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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I don't understand why you say access beats ownership. Do you think this only about music? Or books? Or movies? If so, do you apply it to other things in your life? Do you own a car, or do you only rent? How about your home? Is it better to rent, or buy a place to live? Clothes? Why buy a pair of jeans, when you could pay a monthly fee to have new jeans delivered to your house and return the (month) old ones? For me,…

Why own something if I instead can rent everything when I need it? If I could I would rent everything. Some things I would rent for a long time others for a short. But each to their own of course.

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Re: iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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To chime in on my workflow here, I used to be a heavy user of windows media player, until streaming became big and I bought into the Zune system - for which the software was incredible.

You could download media from the online library and it'd count as part of your local library, and you could create auto playlists that filtered all of your music (streaming and local) into those playlists. Then, you'd just auto-sync those to your devices.

This method isn't possible on any service anymore, and I believe it's because of increasingly more restrictive licensing. The closest I've found, and what I use today is google music. I upload all of my local content to them, and then mark songs that I 'like' as liked. GMusic has an autoplaylist of all my likes that I then sync to all my devices, including my car which has an android stereo.

I encourage everyone to step outside the Apple/Spotify walled gardens every now and then and resurvey the offerings - iTunes is just such an awful bit of software that it makes their service a non-starter for me. GMusic has a great mobile and web client, with download support which is all I need.

Re: iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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I'm sympathetic to this (well, if I trusted access to continue uninterrupted and offline), but for me we're nowhere near there yet. Anyone with sufficiently unusual music tastes can't possibly get their content via 'access'. And that's not a high bar - even tame interests like EDM, jam, or jazz are completely unsolved via access in my experience.

Actually Spotify's numbers show that people listen to much more off-chart music when they only pay for access instead. So there are many ways to look at this.

Sure, but the point is there are many off chart artists and tracks that I'm aware of, or own, that Spotify provides no access to. I've also found great underground albums by artists that one day went dark on Spotify. That happens all the time on all streaming services, especially YouTube. For obscure selection, the competitors to Spotify are even worse.

Overall access is still a ways out. Access is taken away as easily at it is given. Without ownership you lose the ability to ever share that experience you once had access to.

Re: iTunes Has Slowly Destroyed My Will to Collect Music

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I'm sympathetic to this (well, if I trusted access to continue uninterrupted and offline), but for me we're nowhere near there yet. Anyone with sufficiently unusual music tastes can't possibly get their content via 'access'. And that's not a high bar - even tame interests like EDM, jam, or jazz are completely unsolved via access in my experience.

Actually Spotify's numbers show that people listen to much more off-chart music when they only pay for access instead. So there are many ways to look at this.

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