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Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not both? It's an arms race. Why not supply both sides?

What, let a company supply a substance to intentionally harm people so they can sell them a cure? I can see that going down well in other industries. The automobile industry can engineer metal fatigue into their axle joints and sell you replacements. Microsoft can build bugs into Windows and sell you critical updates to fix the flaw. Chair makers can sell you chairs with legs attached by screws that are slightly too…

"let a company supply a substance to intentionally harm people"

Isn't that just a loonie interpretation? Making Butterfingers available for sale don't "intentionally harm" anyone. Surely you're not working on an "attractive nuisance" sort of legal theory here.

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It's the Wall-e Scenario. If we can find a way to continue to consume cheap, shelf-stable, nutrient-dense food; while at the same time repairing our bodies from the side effects, we can be fat blobs living and consuming and growing the economy. And whether that's unilaterally a bad thing may not be a settled question. The top 5 drugs in the US[1] are remedies for problems caused by advanced society - a statin, antaci…

curious why an inhaler is something that is required by an advanced society. I'm asthmatic, but aside from that relatively healthy (not overweight, exercise regularly, eat well-ish, no othe major medical conditions). While my asthma definitely isn't helped if I'm inhaling diesel fumes, I'm far more likely to haven an exercise induced attack.

Air pollution (outdoor as well as indoor - the offgassing from the myriad synthetic materials found in construction and furnishings these days) is only one trigger of asthma and not the only one exacerbated by modern society.

Many experts have theorized changes in our microbiota are partly responsible for the general rise in asthma over the past decades. That would include things like over-sanitation, increased C sections, antibiotics, gut flora-killing diet, etc. http://www.everydayhealth.com/asthma-pictures/8-expert-theor...

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Why not both? It's an arms race. Why not supply both sides?

This whole thing reminds me of a relevant paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Diabetes is not always a byproduct of over consuming sugar and a company producing sugary snacks and diabetes pills does not force or even encourage over consumption of sugar. I don't see what the actual problem is.

Actually, they do encourage exactly that. Stating the obvious, the choices people make are a function of the choices available to them.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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> Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills ...and they want to "own" the water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_pb6r8VNWk

Of course water is not a "human right" - else whom can I sue for being thirsty?

This is the worst offense. The iPodization of water is real. I try to avoid buying water whenever I can. If people like us who have a voice will just quietly switch to bottled water or very expensive home filtration, then we will have failed our civic duty.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Diabetes is not always a byproduct of over consuming sugar and a company producing sugary snacks and diabetes pills does not force or even encourage over consumption of sugar. I don't see what the actual problem is.

Really, you don't see any problem here?

You said it yourself. It's not _always_ a (direct) byproduct of over consuming sugar. However, it often is.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Diabetes is not always a byproduct of over consuming sugar and a company producing sugary snacks and diabetes pills does not force or even encourage over consumption of sugar. I don't see what the actual problem is.

"does not force or even encourage over consumption of sugar."

Actually they do encourage you to eat a lot of sugar. Specially children. Their marketing campaigns are specially tailored to that objective. Just look at the cereal advertisements, most of their cereal brands have a lot of sugar in them.

If that is not encouraging over consumption of sugar I don't know what is...

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Diabetes is not always a byproduct of over consuming sugar and a company producing sugary snacks and diabetes pills does not force or even encourage over consumption of sugar. I don't see what the actual problem is.

The leading cause of diabetes is poor diet. Nestle is selling you foods that if consumed in large quantities will absolutely result in you becoming a diabetic. It's called vertical integration and it's not accidental.

That's their job - to sell legal products to those who want them. What happens to the purchased products is a matter for people's own assessment and capacity for self-control. What was it a McDonalds' guy told folk? Something along the lines "It's not my job to teach your kids to eat vegetables".
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