Lyft and Uber to Halt Operations in Austin After Voters Reject Proposal

Post by pbreit » Sun, May 08, 2016, 4:03 PM UTC

MichaelGG wrote: post #81

courtneypowell wrote: post #14

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The real issue for Uber and Lyft may be the fact that fingerprinting puts them closer to needing to classify drivers as employees instead of contractors. They could surely solve any friction around fingerprinting, but requiring drivers to be classified as employees would put them out of business. Fingerprinting through a government clearinghouse is typically reserved for employees. IMO, they spent $8M on this local v…

Isn't one of the main questions (from the IRS) regarding an employee vs contractor the substitutability of the person? If you delegate work out, but must perform it yourself, then that's a major strike against being a contractor. Same for if you are told exactly how to do something v just what result is needed? Search IRS 20 questions. Here a non PDF result: https://daf.csulb.edu/admin_guidelines/guidelines/independe…

Post by [deleted] » Sun, May 08, 2016, 4:12 PM UTC

pbreit wrote: post #129

courtneypowell wrote: post #14

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The real issue for Uber and Lyft may be the fact that fingerprinting puts them closer to needing to classify drivers as employees instead of contractors. They could surely solve any friction around fingerprinting, but requiring drivers to be classified as employees would put them out of business. Fingerprinting through a government clearinghouse is typically reserved for employees. IMO, they spent $8M on this local v…

That doesn't sound right at all. Contractors are finger-printed, background checked, etc, all the time.

Post by uncletammy » Sun, May 08, 2016, 4:23 PM UTC

eridius wrote: post #87

uncletammy wrote: post #82

The real story here is how Lyft and Uber harrassed their supporters away from the polls. I got 7 flyers in the mail, 3 unsolicited phone calls, multiple push notifications and texts, and a visitor at my door all over a 4 day time period. It can sure make you indifferent to them not getting their way. Their aggressive marketing campaign turned attention away from the issues on the ballot and they came off as an enormo…

I take it you prefer to be more subtly influenced into voting the way others want? Because either way you are being influenced by others to vote the way they want you to.

Post by falsestprophet » Sun, May 08, 2016, 4:31 PM UTC

koolba wrote: post #123

courtneypowell wrote: post #14

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The real issue for Uber and Lyft may be the fact that fingerprinting puts them closer to needing to classify drivers as employees instead of contractors. They could surely solve any friction around fingerprinting, but requiring drivers to be classified as employees would put them out of business. Fingerprinting through a government clearinghouse is typically reserved for employees. IMO, they spent $8M on this local v…

> Fingerprinting through a government clearinghouse is typically reserved for employees. Source? Financial services corporations fingerprint both their employees and contractors. I've never seen a distinction in the process for either.

Post by jacalata » Sun, May 08, 2016, 4:48 PM UTC

jessriedel wrote: post #119

Hondor wrote: post #93

Don't forget who the biggest victims of background checks will be. Unemployable ex-cons. Anyone who's been convicted at any time in their life will have yet another door to employment shut in their face. Maybe 10 or 20 years ago, New Zealand decided to ban anyone with a record of sexual offending from being a taxi driver. That sounds good and safe to the average Joe but one poor man, in his 50's I think, lost his job…

There are lots of jobs besides jobs where strangers get into an automobile alone with you. I am against vindictive employment and voting restrictions on felons, and I'm open to having my mind changed by statistics like the recidivism rate, but I think if you commit a sex crime you don't get to be a taxi driver any more.