Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
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Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#2I've been unable to find the dialogue alone
without all of the editorialising
The article is fascinating, and I was unaware of this debate but I find it difficult to reason along with this article's diction
I'd love to read the original debate, if anyone had a link
Preferably an English translation, but the French would be fine too
EDIT : lstamour found it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11646664
Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#3I've been unable to find the dialogue alone without all of the editorialising The article is fascinating, and I was unaware of this debate but I find it difficult to reason along with this article's diction I'd love to read the original debate, if anyone had a link Preferably an English translation, but the French would be fine too EDIT : lstamour found it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11646664
Did you try to follow up ref. 1 from the article?
Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#4I've been unable to find the dialogue alone without all of the editorialising The article is fascinating, and I was unaware of this debate but I find it difficult to reason along with this article's diction I'd love to read the original debate, if anyone had a link Preferably an English translation, but the French would be fine too EDIT : lstamour found it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11646664
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Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#5Simultaneity plays an important role in the brain too, and there it is difficult to say who may be right.
Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#6I've been unable to find the dialogue alone without all of the editorialising The article is fascinating, and I was unaware of this debate but I find it difficult to reason along with this article's diction I'd love to read the original debate, if anyone had a link Preferably an English translation, but the French would be fine too EDIT : lstamour found it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11646664
Did you try to follow up ref. 1 from the article?
i did, multiple search permutations all came up dry, circling back by linking to this same nautil.us article
Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you try to follow up ref. 1 from the article?
i did, multiple search permutations all came up dry, circling back by linking to this same nautil.us article
I might have found it in PDF (with an annoying download timer) at http://docslide.fr/documents/la-theorie-de-la-relativite-dei... or http://bit.ly/23vLiif (Google Books preview), found via exerpts at http://dialog.ac-reims.fr/wphilo/philoreims/articlesb6fe.htm... which cites Bergson-Einstein, Bulletin de la Société Française de Philosophie, T. XVII, 1922, Paris, A. Colin, p. 25 as the original source. This PDF might still be in copyright, so there might still be better sources out there.
Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
i did, multiple search permutations all came up dry, circling back by linking to this same nautil.us article
I might have found it in PDF (with an annoying download timer) at http://docslide.fr/documents/la-theorie-de-la-relativite-dei... or http://bit.ly/23vLiif (Google Books preview), found via exerpts at http://dialog.ac-reims.fr/wphilo/philoreims/articlesb6fe.htm... which cites Bergson-Einstein, Bulletin de la Société Française de Philosophie, T. XVII, 1922, Paris, A. Colin, p. 25 as the original source. This PDF might…
found it, in french:
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3075319;view=1up...
which matches your bitly link: http://bit.ly/23vLiif ; and the bitly link has a clearer typeface
also, it seems the pdf is the same document.. well done on the results!
one of your other links led me here:
http://www.2iceshs.cyfronet.pl/2ICESHS_Proceedings/Chapter_2...
from there i got the citation:
The meeting was recounted in the Bulletin de la Société française de Philosophie, vol. 22, no. 3, July 1922, pp. 102–113. It was reprinted in Bergson, Ecrits et Paroles, vol. 3, pp. 497, and in Henri Bergson, ―Discussion avec Einstein,‖ in Mélanges (Paris: Presses Universitaires de France, 1972).
of which i took the Bulletin de la Société française de Philosophie, vol. 22, no. 3, July 1922,
which led me here:
https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000505792
and you can see v17-22(1917-1922) which leads to the above facsimile
you can easily confirm this by searching the text for the quote: Il n’y a donc pas un temps des philosophes ; which will be found on page 107
Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#9Could it be that our brain simply overclocks/underclocks in certain situations, leading to different perceptions of time? Such a construct would probably never occur to either Bergson or Einstein.
Re: Henri Bergson’s debate with Albert Einstein swayed the 1921 Nobel committee
#10Could it be that our brain simply overclocks/underclocks in certain situations, leading to different perceptions of time? Such a construct would probably never occur to either Bergson or Einstein.
They made experiments and apparently we don't overclock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_motion_perception