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Apple Stole My Music

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Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by coldtea »

mapt wrote: post #156
coldtea wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do you know that? I'm smart like that. Or rather I have read in detail about how Apple Music works. Besides, the burden of proof is on those making that claim. > That you are the sole owner of the rights of a piece of music does not grant Apple an automatic license to distribute it "just to you". I call BS. That's exactly the same as Dropbox/Google Drive whatever making a copy of your files and distributing the…

The work was not merely backed up, but repackaged into a format that Apple is more comfortable selling in; .wav files were converted to AACs, and rare remixes were converted to the popular hit versions. The old stuff was then deleted from local storage without permission, which is intent to make these privately owned tracks an excludable good, not to mention theft. A further problem arises when a user has a non-trans…

This clears things out:

>On your original Mac, Apple Music will never delete songs without your knowledge. Your original library is scanned into iCloud, but your songs are yours, and Apple will not automatically delete them, or replace them with its own proprietary copies.

http://www.imore.com/no-apple-music-not-deleting-tracks-your...

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by Bud »

Hydraulix989 wrote: post #378
clapinton wrote: post #285

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Remember the U2 fiasco, when Apple decided to break into your computer and push their new album through iTunes? It seems like whenever Apple decides to take control of your files, shit happens. Back in the day, I tried to use iTunes for a while when I bought my iPod. One of the first things that it asked me was to take control of my music, as it would reorganize it by itself. I agreed, but tested it first with a smal…

I've survived for 20 years now with zero backups (across at least 10 mechanical hard drives, some of them Seagate) and have never lost data.

I've survived for 48 years eating too much steak, drinking too much beer, and exercising too little. In your opinion, does this give us useful information that tells us that I should keep doing these things, because obviously, I will live forever?

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Post by darreld »

I went all-in on Mac in 2001. Pretty unix and awesome hardware. I used iTunes as soon as it was available. As a matter of fact I'm actually looking at a 1st generation iPod on my desk right now (preparing it for eBay).

I have steered clear of this service from the beginning, partly because I'm old and want my own old library and partly because I am very aware that Apple can NOT do services of any kind, at all. They have botched everything they have ever tried to do online. .me, .mac, accounts (I have 3 and they cannot merge them).

I feel for this guy but, given their history, it's pretty much a slam-dunk that Apple would drop the ball if it's a service.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by joemi »

MaysonL wrote: post #354
funkyy wrote: post #75

I am surprised at people trying to rationale Apples wrongdoing by pointing at Google and bringing some crazy examples. There is no rationale in this - this is outright breaking your privacy and ownership rights. No terms and conditions can be above law. It doesn't matter what others do - Apple is doing those crazy things here and there trying to test the ground which indicates they are not pro privacy and pro user, b…

Or perhaps, just maybe, the situation is being mis-reported? "No, Apple Music is not deleting tracks off your hard drive — unless you tell it to"[0] [0] http://www.imore.com/no-apple-music-not-deleting-tracks-your...

If this is indeed true, then it kind of trumps most of the comments around here.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by thevibesman »

thevibesman wrote: post #412

I rebuttal to the idea that Apple is "stealing" music was posted: "No, Apple Music is not deleting your music – unless you tell it to" [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11638308

s/I rebuttal/A rebuttal/

Didn't notice the typo within the edit window; didn't mean to imply I wrote that other article.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by yomly »

gumby wrote: post #332
Esau wrote: post #291

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I was under the impression they did do audio fingerprinting. Otherwise, you could gain access to a ton of music.

Even if they do audio fingerprinting the match is simplistic. I have a large collection of different versions of songs, and Shazam identifies them all as the studio version.

Audio fingerprinting is also pretty hit and miss for classical music where the work is the same and the artist differs.

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Post by jmiserez »

acdha wrote: post #267
acdha wrote: post #81

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One major flaw: Dropbox on iOS rotates the image data and resets the EXIF orientation header when it finds a rotated file. If you've ever used a different sync path you'll end up with a bunch of duplicate images with different hashes.

n.b. if anyone at Dropbox sees this or others want to reference it, here's the ticket: https://dropbox.zendesk.com/requests/3750448

That link doesn't work for me, says request not found.

Can you clarify this a bit? I.e what does the Dropbox app do if you take a picture in portrait mode, and what does iOS do? Is the rotation info lost completely?

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Post by StavrosK »

sangnoir wrote: post #215
StavrosK wrote: post #113

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I don't see anybody rationalizing Apple's wrongdoing here, though. Whom are you referring to?

I'm not OP, but I'm guessing they are referring to buro9[1], who posted an hour before. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11635184

Yeah, buro9's comment is the only one that seems to fit, but I don't read the comment as supportive of Apple at all, quite the contrary, it reads to me damning of Google.

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Post by johnny22 »

rabboRubble wrote: post #414
bisby wrote: post #248

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Someone should make a tool that creates mp3s having the metadata of other real songs for apple to match on.

There already is... https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ Apparently Amazon uses this tagging service to keep its online music library organized.

what the parent poster meant was crafting audio files and metadata that would match what apple checks against ones, such as to get free music

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by intrasight »

sotirisk wrote: post #232
intrasight wrote: post #226

This is not directed at anyone in particular, but: "syncing" with a cloud service - stupid not backing up - stupid

syncing is supposed to leave at least two copies which is clearly not the case here. have you read the article?

I did. And I know the article isn't about syncing - it's about Apple deciding they know best how to manage your digital media files. I'm just making a general comment.

The problem with "syncing" is if I delete a file on one device, what does sync semantics say should happen? It is ambiguous, which is why syncing is a stupid semantic. Copying files and deleting files is unambiguous.

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