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Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by lake99 »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #102

The ball is back in Apple's court. They seem to take the end user more seriously, but they've been mixed. I made a comment taking Microsoft to task when their surreptitious telemetry came to light, and someone pointed me to proof that Apple was doing about the same thing. This is Apple's chance to continue to distance themselves from their competition. They've done well standing up for privacy, with the recent FBI de…

SteamOS has already been released[1], but all they do is add some stuff on Debian. But Steam/Valve does not seem to be too committed to Linux. Their Linux games are often quite buggy[2], and in my experience, support is slow.

[1] http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

[2] https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2/issues

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by z3t4 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

Like going into an expensive store dressed like a poor man.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by narrator »

Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

This kind of reminds me about how QuarkXPress abused their market dominance for so long and generated a lot of resentment in the community. When a decent alternative came along in Adobe InDesign, people jumped ship in droves[1].

[1] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/quarkx...

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by cm2187 »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #102

The ball is back in Apple's court. They seem to take the end user more seriously, but they've been mixed. I made a comment taking Microsoft to task when their surreptitious telemetry came to light, and someone pointed me to proof that Apple was doing about the same thing. This is Apple's chance to continue to distance themselves from their competition. They've done well standing up for privacy, with the recent FBI de…

Would you trust google more than microsoft with your privacy? A google OS sounds more like a fox in the henhouse than a solution to the invasion of privacy.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by r3bl »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #102

The ball is back in Apple's court. They seem to take the end user more seriously, but they've been mixed. I made a comment taking Microsoft to task when their surreptitious telemetry came to light, and someone pointed me to proof that Apple was doing about the same thing. This is Apple's chance to continue to distance themselves from their competition. They've done well standing up for privacy, with the recent FBI de…

I work in a medium sized organization and we let people choose which operating system they want to use, but we do let them know that we prefer Linux (we've created our own little custom Ubuntu ISO with the software that we need pre-installed and it took us like two hours).

Today, we have like 10 Ubuntus, a couple of Windows PCs, a couple of Macs and a couple of Chromebooks (not counting our tech staff since we all know how to deal with whatever we're using).

Ubuntu is by far the easiest to deal with (only had a single issue related to LibreOffice crashing Linux because of some DRM issue, but the fix was already released and all we had to do is to update the system). Chromebooks are by far the worst (it took me forever to figure out how to add a damn printer). That's why I think that Chrome OS will never be more than a toy.

As for Valve, their OS is out for about a year now (don't know it it's stable yet) and you can already purchase some Steam boxes I think (I'll have to verify this).

Edit: yes they are, for half a year now: http://store.steampowered.com/sale/steam_machines

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by rsync »

jrcii wrote: post #54
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

I lived through the exact same disaster. I spent HOURS on the phone trying to acquire a license for Windows 7 Enterprise, I needed it for Hyper-V. Microsoft's main number, dead-end IVR system. Tried the Microsoft Store, they routed me to the dead-end IVR system. 50 or so minutes after my initial attempt I got some person that could barely speak English from India routing me to a voicemail, a couple of times Microsoft…

"I lived through the exact same disaster."

Might it be easier to just get an OS-level subscription to MSDN ? I got one of those a few years ago for rsync.net and it was quick and easy to purchase ... and then we had everything.

Certainly more expensive to get MSDN than a single OS license, but it's not that expensive ...

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by DKnoll »

rsync wrote: post #116
jrcii wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lived through the exact same disaster. I spent HOURS on the phone trying to acquire a license for Windows 7 Enterprise, I needed it for Hyper-V. Microsoft's main number, dead-end IVR system. Tried the Microsoft Store, they routed me to the dead-end IVR system. 50 or so minutes after my initial attempt I got some person that could barely speak English from India routing me to a voicemail, a couple of times Microsoft…

"I lived through the exact same disaster." Might it be easier to just get an OS-level subscription to MSDN ? I got one of those a few years ago for rsync.net and it was quick and easy to purchase ... and then we had everything . Certainly more expensive to get MSDN than a single OS license, but it's not that expensive ...

MSDN is not licensed for production, I assume you mean you're using it just for development and testing.

MS Partner on the other hand is licensed for internal-only production use.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by cm3 »

jrcii wrote: post #54
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

I lived through the exact same disaster. I spent HOURS on the phone trying to acquire a license for Windows 7 Enterprise, I needed it for Hyper-V. Microsoft's main number, dead-end IVR system. Tried the Microsoft Store, they routed me to the dead-end IVR system. 50 or so minutes after my initial attempt I got some person that could barely speak English from India routing me to a voicemail, a couple of times Microsoft…

Reminds of the time when I wanted to get a license for a piece of software and they only offered training courses for teams coupled with a software license. I chalked it off as being outside their customer target group.

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Post by JoshuaJB »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #102

The ball is back in Apple's court. They seem to take the end user more seriously, but they've been mixed. I made a comment taking Microsoft to task when their surreptitious telemetry came to light, and someone pointed me to proof that Apple was doing about the same thing. This is Apple's chance to continue to distance themselves from their competition. They've done well standing up for privacy, with the recent FBI de…

From what I've seen, Google's desktop Linux systems are just customized LTS Ubuntu images. (Source: visits to Google office) They appeared entirely normal, eg. Unity, Gnome Apps, etc. but I am sure they made some Google-specific changes.

Also, Valve released their Linux distro awhile ago. [1] And Phoronix [2] has some good Windows vs Linux gaming benchmarks. My impression was that they were getting pretty comparable.

[1] http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/ [2] http://www.phoronix.com/

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