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Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by Animats »

levemi wrote: post #42
cortesoft wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If those 'wrong' people are Microsoft employees, they should have directed him to the right people. If they didn't, then it is absolutely Microsoft's fault.

Microsoft is a huge organization with tens of thousands of employees. We have no idea what was communicated between this commenter and the sales person. At some point you have to kind of step back and realize that you're responsible for your outcomes and not blame everything bad that happens to you on others. Searching Google with "startup microsoft" or "startup pricing microsoft" would have been enough effort to fig…

No. That's not how sales organizations for competent companies work.

IBM, in the mainframe era, was very good at this. It was IBM policy that if you called anyone within IBM sales with a problem, it was the IBM employee's job to get you to the right people. All IBM salespeople had a little printed pocket book of phone numbers within IBM, a directory of contacts for various types of problems.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by cmdrfred »

wvenable wrote: post #47
satysin wrote: post #35

They should rename it to Windows 10 "Professional" Home Edition

That's actually what it is. Professional is the version for end users, people like you and me, who want to run more than "Home" on their own computers. Enterprise is for computers owned by your company.

I for one don't find this change very professional. I'd go further and call anything but enterprise 'Windows 10 Ad Supported edition'.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by jessaustin »

levemi wrote: post #48
jessaustin wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really your assumption that thread parent neglected even to google this topic of such great import to business success? That seems neither likely nor charitable.

It's definitely more palatable than blindly bringing out the "M$" pitchforks but I guess if you were looking for something on HN to get your daily anger fix I guess feel free to use this as your opportunity.

Wow!

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by jrcii »

Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

I lived through the exact same disaster. I spent HOURS on the phone trying to acquire a license for Windows 7 Enterprise, I needed it for Hyper-V. Microsoft's main number, dead-end IVR system. Tried the Microsoft Store, they routed me to the dead-end IVR system. 50 or so minutes after my initial attempt I got some person that could barely speak English from India routing me to a voicemail, a couple of times Microsoft's phone system plain hung up on me after having me on hold for 20+ minutes.

Eventually I got some person at a Microsoft Store felt bad about the whole thing and took 2 days to get a number for a rep a CDW who could get me the price. That rep didn't have the price, but took my information after a 15 minute call and promised to get it to me. When she did days later, she couldn't give me a final price because she forgot I needed a user CAL and a remote access CAL. When I went to make the final purchase, she said oh, actually we can't do it because Microsoft won't sell the Windows 7 license anymore only Windows 10.

The whole process made me feel like I was losing my mind.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

levemi wrote: post #42
cortesoft wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If those 'wrong' people are Microsoft employees, they should have directed him to the right people. If they didn't, then it is absolutely Microsoft's fault.

Microsoft is a huge organization with tens of thousands of employees. We have no idea what was communicated between this commenter and the sales person. At some point you have to kind of step back and realize that you're responsible for your outcomes and not blame everything bad that happens to you on others. Searching Google with "startup microsoft" or "startup pricing microsoft" would have been enough effort to fig…

Do you understand how that sounds?

"We failed to sell you something you wanted, and it's your fault."

Besides, BizSpark is solely for startups, not for established SMBs, who would quite reasonably expect to be able to sign up for Enterprise by searching for "Enterprise".

Is this too obvious, perhaps?

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by jessaustin »

rasz_pl wrote: post #27

No they dont, blocking windows store is one firewall rule.

It has been some time since I've used Windows in a corporate setting, but ISTM that just blocking in the network would lead to a degraded user experience and many more support calls. "When I needed to open this file it opened the program [because why would a user know that's the windows store and not something capable of reading their odd file?] and then it just stopped doing anything!"

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by RaleyField »

colemannerd wrote: post #32

Unlike many comments, I really like this. I think it unthinkable that businesses reduce employee's productivity by locking down their machine. In the days when Microsoft wasn't checking the security of applications, this was understandable. With a managed and secured store, this is security for the sake of security. If you believe you should disable something just for security without examing the value of the feature…

> With a managed and secured store, this is security for the sake of security.

That attitude is what causes multi-million dollar breaches. It's all right if your customers pay for it tho.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by seanp2k2 »

GigabyteCoin wrote: post #31

And this particular sysadmin-for-my-family will no longer allow windows to be installed on any of our computers whenever they are in need of a reinstall. Windows is becoming more and more like Facebook. Too many users changed a setting you don't agree with? Just block access to that setting or call it something else to confuse enough people to the point that the numbers are "good enough" for management. Almost every…

Yeah, at a time when their market share is declining and real solid alternatives exist for gamers, productivity, browsing, entertainment, etc you'd think they'd do everything in their power to make their platform more inviting, flexible, affordable, etc. Burning people with stuff like this will only eat up any remaining goodwill they had with consumers, and they'll be left with corporate customers and a dumbed-down product that no one wants to administrate.
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