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Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by GigabyteCoin »

And this particular sysadmin-for-my-family will no longer allow windows to be installed on any of our computers whenever they are in need of a reinstall.

Windows is becoming more and more like Facebook. Too many users changed a setting you don't agree with? Just block access to that setting or call it something else to confuse enough people to the point that the numbers are "good enough" for management.

Almost every time I visit my parents, my mother's Windows 10 laptop has reverted at least one of the changes I have made.

I used to keep a copy of Windows available via dualboot on all of my laptops, just in case I needed to print something in a remote location where whichever flavor of linux I was using didn't support. Not anymore. Linux Mint serves that requirement just fine.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by colemannerd »

Unlike many comments, I really like this. I think it unthinkable that businesses reduce employee's productivity by locking down their machine. In the days when Microsoft wasn't checking the security of applications, this was understandable. With a managed and secured store, this is security for the sake of security. If you believe you should disable something just for security without examing the value of the feature, why are you letting users access the internet?

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by monocasa »

levemi wrote: post #29
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

> I worked for a startup, under 20 machines, I tried to buy then Windows 7 Enterprise. Microsoft's partners were super unhelpful, disinterested in a small account, refused to provide clear pricing, and I was getting upsold even before we got the basics squared away ("I'll just add on 20 CALs, a Windows Server license, and let's talk exchange!"). Ultimately we just gave up, and used Windows 7 Home(!) for three years.…

If he's able to reach "the wrong people", that still represents a failure on Microsoft's part.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by skykooler »

hackuser wrote: post #15

I want devices that I, the owner, control, whether I'm a small business or enterprise or individual. This is important for many reasons, from security to freedom-to-tinker to using the device I own in the way I want. It was once an accepted standard in IT. Now, can anyone name a current handheld or desktop system that provides end-user control? If you don't think security, including privacy, is important, consider wh…

The Jolla phone provides end-user control.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by cortesoft »

levemi wrote: post #29
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

> I worked for a startup, under 20 machines, I tried to buy then Windows 7 Enterprise. Microsoft's partners were super unhelpful, disinterested in a small account, refused to provide clear pricing, and I was getting upsold even before we got the basics squared away ("I'll just add on 20 CALs, a Windows Server license, and let's talk exchange!"). Ultimately we just gave up, and used Windows 7 Home(!) for three years.…

If those 'wrong' people are Microsoft employees, they should have directed him to the right people.

If they didn't, then it is absolutely Microsoft's fault.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by basch »

rchowe wrote: post #17

The reasoning behind this made a lot more sense to me once I started to do a back-of-the-envelope calculation. There can't have been that many end users who had Windows 10 Pro and went into group policy to turn off the store. So you're looking at small businesses who were using PCs with Win10 Pro on them (likely that came with the PC) that were turning off access to the store but can't any more. The IT admins for the…

Your small business is already an O365 E3/E5 customer, and Microsoft is tricking your users into signing up for Microsoft accounts ontop of O365 accounts (which creates all sorts of unnecessary sign in complications, like OFTEN having to choose WORK over Personal TWICE in a row.) Now you have all sorts of training issues and confusion when peoples onenote notes end up in their Microsoft account and not their O365 account (oh and their surface eraser only opens the metro app, which doesnt work with 0365 accounts.)

This is a classic example of two divisions who cant get along, both fighting for the same territory.

It becomes painful when you type in your username, to have to wait for it to ask work or personal TWICE, for EVERY SINGLE MICROSOFT APP. Word, onedrive, skype, sharepoint sometimes prompts 3,4,5 times in a row with slightly different interfaces. I shouldnt have to type my O365 password EVERY SINGLE time I open a Microsoft app on iOS (except outlook which only forgets it like once a month)

A new user would get prompted for their password

1) sign into windows

2) activate office

3) sync sharepoint library

4) sync sharepoint library didnt pass the last cred to the app right.

Microsoft's credential management is atrocious for end users. Guess how many times Chrome and Facebook have made me retype my password when logged into my own computer this year.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by cortesoft »

colemannerd wrote: post #32

Unlike many comments, I really like this. I think it unthinkable that businesses reduce employee's productivity by locking down their machine. In the days when Microsoft wasn't checking the security of applications, this was understandable. With a managed and secured store, this is security for the sake of security. If you believe you should disable something just for security without examing the value of the feature…

And you think it is Microsoft's place to enforce this?

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by adrenalinelol »

tdkl wrote: post #4

How can someone still trust MS ?

While I wouldn't view it from trust and mis-trust, I'd instead argue it's the company culture to act monopolistic. We've seen this hubris bite them in the ass on more than one occasion:

Windows XP -> Windows Vista Windows 7 -> Windows 8 Xbox 360 -> Xbox One

It's endemic in their company, and that won't change unless the company's back is up against a wall (financially).

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by adrianN »

colemannerd wrote: post #32

Unlike many comments, I really like this. I think it unthinkable that businesses reduce employee's productivity by locking down their machine. In the days when Microsoft wasn't checking the security of applications, this was understandable. With a managed and secured store, this is security for the sake of security. If you believe you should disable something just for security without examing the value of the feature…

You'd be suprised how restricted some companies' web access is.
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