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Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by yuhong »

Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

You can get Win10 Enterprise with Software Assurance using Open License. It is also recommended to renew it every three years. But on the other note, I should mention that even Server 2012 Essentials include WSUS to control updates for example.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by fu9ar »

Qantourisc wrote: post #8
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

If I recall correctly they want to get people on their 365. Not a good plan unless you trust Microsoft completely, of-course these kind of moves don't help their argument.

Sometimes, but significantly often, when I click on an email in the Outlook 365 web app, nothing happens. The display pane goes blank-white.

There is a noticable delay when I click to focus on the search bar, and often I have to retype because I click and go to start typing in my search term and lose the first few characters.

Almost always, when I search for an email in the Android app, it just hangs and even if I leave it to sit for minutes...

It's not about trust in motivation at this point. It's about trust in competency.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by fu9ar »

ambulancechaser wrote: post #6
askyourmother wrote: post #3

Another nail in the coffin for winblows in the workplace. We just migrated a 300 headcount org onto a mixture of Linux and BSD kit, and they could not be happier. Mickeysoft have to realise inertia for change is not that strong, businesses have more choices today and they could and should abandon the burning platform.

I think its a general rule that anytime you derisively mock someone's name with these snide, "clever" puns--or whatever you want to call them--any argument you could make is ignored.

It was new to me and was worth a wry grin.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by to3m »

meepmorp wrote: post #7
askyourmother wrote: post #3

Another nail in the coffin for winblows in the workplace. We just migrated a 300 headcount org onto a mixture of Linux and BSD kit, and they could not be happier. Mickeysoft have to realise inertia for change is not that strong, businesses have more choices today and they could and should abandon the burning platform.

You forgot to call them M$; that's how people know to take you seriously.

Maybe for the company. The correct term for the "OS" (or more like glorified program loader, amirite) is, of course, `Mickey$loth WinDOS'.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by hackuser »

I want devices that I, the owner, control, whether I'm a small business or enterprise or individual. This is important for many reasons, from security to freedom-to-tinker to using the device I own in the way I want.

It was once an accepted standard in IT. Now, can anyone name a current handheld or desktop system that provides end-user control?

If you don't think security, including privacy, is important, consider what a U.S. president with fascistic tendancies would do with all this access to citizen's devices and data (and how many companies would risk their enterprises when he leaned on them?).

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by drglitch »

Microsoft enterprise/SMB sales process (via channel partners) is a laughable disaster.

Recent task: Run a Windows Server VM on Azure, with 4 remote desktop users connecting in.

Result: almost a MONTH of back and fourth with THREE different MSPs since none of them knew details of proper licensing. In fact, even Azure support did not know licensing terms and said just to contact the MSPs, who in turn advised we contact Azure support. In the end, after a couple of days of googling and reading obscure MSDN entries, we THINK we got the right licensing approach.

Oh, and total cost difference between different MSPs on even such a small order was over 40%.

Sadly, its currently a classic example of "please take my money" and the company doing everything in their power not to. Until microsoft clears up their licensing terms and makes pricing transparent, they will be hated.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by rchowe »

The reasoning behind this made a lot more sense to me once I started to do a back-of-the-envelope calculation.

There can't have been that many end users who had Windows 10 Pro and went into group policy to turn off the store. So you're looking at small businesses who were using PCs with Win10 Pro on them (likely that came with the PC) that were turning off access to the store but can't any more. The IT admins for these companies are the people Microsoft wants to upsell.

Lets say that there are 500 businesses who care about this feature each with an average of about 20 PCs (probably a high estimate for PCs, low estimate for number of businesses). That's 10000 PCs that Microsoft could potentially convince to upgrade, at (a quick guess based on Google) $120/PC, to Win10 Enterprise, or a potential $1.2M more in revenue that doesn't cannibalize one of their other businesses (assuming more changes to differentiate Pro vs Enterprise). Probably the people who will upgrade are people with factory computers running Win10 Pro.

And for people that don't upgrade, they get to promote their app store. Win-win.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

We are tied to Microsoft due to a multi-million dollar ERP. I have frozen at Win 8.1 (software assurance contract). I love server and maybe once Server 2016 is out this Fall/Winter, I can circle back around but the 2 Win10 machines we have (one is mine) tripped every security protocol we have (we do some stuff for foreign and local defense contractors). Thi sis the enterprise edition. In the end, I block a few thousand domains and entire netblocks within and without our networks which completely breaks Cortana, Store, etc. along with just about every Microsoft website. It's a pain. I'll be moving back to DragonflyBSD ASAP on my desktop and running VM's whenever I need to hop into Windows.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by fweespee_ch »

rchowe wrote: post #17

The reasoning behind this made a lot more sense to me once I started to do a back-of-the-envelope calculation. There can't have been that many end users who had Windows 10 Pro and went into group policy to turn off the store. So you're looking at small businesses who were using PCs with Win10 Pro on them (likely that came with the PC) that were turning off access to the store but can't any more. The IT admins for the…

> Microsoft has retroactively removed the ability of companies to turn off access to the Windows Store in its Windows 10 Pro version.

Yes but by "upsell" you mean "extort by way of feature removal after the product was purchased".

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by acbabis »

ambulancechaser wrote: post #6
askyourmother wrote: post #3

Another nail in the coffin for winblows in the workplace. We just migrated a 300 headcount org onto a mixture of Linux and BSD kit, and they could not be happier. Mickeysoft have to realise inertia for change is not that strong, businesses have more choices today and they could and should abandon the burning platform.

I think its a general rule that anytime you derisively mock someone's name with these snide, "clever" puns--or whatever you want to call them--any argument you could make is ignored.

Agreed. I'd have to say pejorative puns are on-par with scare quotes for signaling lack of substance.
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