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Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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My (non-provable) theory is that Satoshi is not a person but a team, now defunct, that was tasked with developing a crypto-currency. They are probably more scientists/mathematicians/economists than they are software developers, which would explain the very sound but not exactly elegant initial code. It would also explain the silence - the project is over, the team is probably bound to secrecy because this stuff is cl…

Or, one or all of the team members are dead now.

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Abusive people commit suicides as well.

Once you know it's a tactic you can't allow yourself to fall for it anymore or you'll end up trapped, regardless of what the final outcome is. However it's not right to go around guessing that someone like this guy is using that tactic and ignoring what could be a serious cry for help when you have no idea if he's an abusive person.

Abusive people aren't always abusive by calculation. Sometimes this "tactic" is completely honest, at the moment.

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The Goodbye at the end is worrying, but he simply needs to do one small action to prove his case and put an end to it all. It would take less than 5 minutes, which leaves the question, why drag it on like this?

> It would take less than 5 minutes I wouldn't keep the keys to US$ 500 million on my laptop's hard drive.

I agree. Once he said "In the next few days i will move a coin," he told every savvy crook in Australia "follow me around for the next few days"

EDIT: this is presupposing he's not a con-artist, which is still my hypothesis

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First search for narcissist checklist got me https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-legacy-distorted-lo... If you toss out the ones about romantic relationships, Craig hits on most of them.

I'm in the Wright is a liar/con-artist camp but the items on that list apply to most "normal" people (including myself).

I must say I disagree. I found most of those descriptions to be indicative of a pathological personality, and certainly not 'normal.'

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> It would take less than 5 minutes I wouldn't keep the keys to US$ 500 million on my laptop's hard drive.

Side note, but I've thought about this and wondered the same thing. Where do you keep 500M? In your house on an offline hard disk that can be stolen? In a safe deposit box? This is a true data backup scenario where too few copies and you're in trouble and too many and you're in trouble. Especially since a copy that was found without your knowledge could ruin things before you knew.

In your head. Or rather, you encrypt all your super secret private data with a good password that you never write down, and copy the encrypted archive everywhere.

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It's quite telling that you don't want me to speak for other people but just in your answer before projected your irrational feelings about bitcoin on me and on what I feel or don't feel for bitcoin (so that we get straight, I don't "feel" anything for a technology, that doesn't make sense). When I referred the world at large, I referred the world at large that already knows bitcoin, not the world population. And fro…

The most damning: Seven transaction a second. You cannot have a functioning financial system that is constrained to seven transactions per second.

So when you say that for a "fact" the system is constrained to 7TPS, you are intentionally ignoring most bitcoin transactions, which are off-chain transactions at exchanges. That's not just oversight that's deceit.

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If someone gets scammed by a con-artist, would you blame the victim there too?

In this case yes, because they are influencers of the community and were not being responsible in ensuring the proof was rigorous enough

Gavin said that he expected Wright to immediately post public proof equivalent to what he'd seen in private. When that didn't happen, he started expressing doubts. I don't think he ever intended his post alone to be treated as authoritative proof.

Yeah he made a mistake. But smart, even skeptical people get conned into making those kind of mistakes all the time. In the end, it's a lot of drama with no real harm done.

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The note is terribly sad. I hope he has people around him to support him.

It's weird that he's afraid of proving it but not of being labeled as a con artist. It makes no sense.

He's clearly used to being labeled a con-artist for many years.

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I'm in the Wright is a liar/con-artist camp but the items on that list apply to most "normal" people (including myself).

Any psychologist will tell you that most people can't objectively evaluate such criteria for themselves. This is something that is best left to professionals who have experience with people that DEFINITELY have such disorders. I'm also in the non-believer camp, nor can I fathom why "Satoshi" would initially choose to remain anonymous but then decide to come out. What purpose does that serve? Whatever the case, all of…

Not to derail too much but this is the reason people are so overdiagnosed these days. All the criteria are vague, even psychiatrists overdiagnose all the time.

Even the guy who chaired the DSM-IV thinks so: http://www.amazon.com/Saving-Normal-Out-Control-Medicalizati...

Modern psychiatry is 50% science 50% tarot cards if you ask me.

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