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Apple Stole My Music

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Post by Esau »

sobellian wrote: post #228
falcolas wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another point of data in favor of "they deleted my music" here. And when they did it, they were only matching on the file metadata, so the album they removed was truly lost, since I got some weird techno album in its place. Thankfully, it's one I can recover from a CD, when I find it again.

I'm very surprised that they would perform such a destructive operation based only off of metadata (instead of some sort of audio fingerprinting).

I was under the impression they did do audio fingerprinting. Otherwise, you could gain access to a ton of music.

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Post by karlshea »

Kadin wrote: post #202
RussianCow wrote: post #149

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I don't know if I'm alone, but I find Windows 10 horrible. It consistently freezes on me for several seconds at a time (and usually when I'm doing something important), it takes longer to fully boot (background services seem to take way longer to start), it uses an incredible amount of CPU and disk in the background for no reason, the new Control Panel is impossible to sort through, and the overall UI/UX is a step ba…

I can't comment on Win10 per se, because I haven't seen a compelling set of features that would cause me to upgrade my Win7 machine. Win7 is essentially what WinXP was a few years ago; it's not perfect, but it's familiar and it gets the job done and it stays out of the way (most of the time). As a user, Microsoft has to offer me something significant if they want me to spend time learning something new, and I've not…

Win 10 is to Win 8 what Win 7 was to Vista.

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Post by Esau »

leephillips wrote: post #180
rossng wrote: post #74

Every time I am asked to set up someone's Apple device, I find it incredibly difficult to: * Get it synced properly * Determine what is stored in iCloud/on-device * Ensure that device contents are actually backed-up, unless done manually * Set up simple things like email accounts Just a month or two ago, I was helping someone whose iTunes music wouldn't sync to their iPhone. It turned out that, when they signed up to…

I recommend Android for anyone in a position to change. I plug my Android phone into my Linux laptop. The phone's filesystem is mounted. I move, copy, delete whatever music and photos I want. Dead simple and rational. I put Flickr on the phone. Photos I take with the phone are automatically backed up to Flickr, and I can see them from anywhere.

Android, as an ecosystem, it horrible. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

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Post by rsync »

Karunamon wrote: post #260
preetbhinder wrote: post #148

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I stopped using anything from the i* suite after my first Mac when I learned that it messed up my folder structure. All my carefully organised music and photos were imported into an opaque database that gave me no visibility into how things were stored.

Did something change? Because the iTunes internal organization for music at least is quite easy to understand. From the library folder: Music/Artist/Album/Track# Title.ext If your files aren't tagged correctly (which is distressingly common), then the auto organization will make a pig's breakfast of your library. A common example: "Artist" and "Album Artist" are two different ID3 fields - if you have an album with an…

"If your files aren't tagged correctly (which is distressingly common), then the auto organization will make a pig's breakfast of your library."

Pray tell, how should my WAV/PCM files be "tagged" ? What's the format for that ? Exactly.

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Post by joesmo »

Once again we have criminal action covered by the CFAA completely ignored by the government because a large corporation is doing it. Serving malware knowingly? No problem. Overstepping your access and deleting files that aren't yours? No problem. But good fucking forbid an individual even types a wrong url and they're in jail. Double standard much?

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Post by wvenable »

VonGuard wrote: post #288
clapinton wrote: post #285

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Remember the U2 fiasco, when Apple decided to break into your computer and push their new album through iTunes? It seems like whenever Apple decides to take control of your files, shit happens. Back in the day, I tried to use iTunes for a while when I bought my iPod. One of the first things that it asked me was to take control of my music, as it would reorganize it by itself. I agreed, but tested it first with a smal…

Apple fundamentally does not understand software. A shame, as the software, really, was their original special sauce with the Mac 128k and beyond. Today, however, the company really doesn't understand how to make, maintain, or market software. It sees software as a way to spread their control of their hardware further into your life. It's going to be the death of Apple, mark my words.

Out of all the consumer electronics companies, Apple makes the best software.

(Edit: This is not a compliment)

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Post by digi_owl »

leephillips wrote: post #219
bittercynic wrote: post #210

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This has gotten worse over time as well. It used to be you could mount your phone's storage as a mass storage device, but now (as far as I can tell) MTP is the only option.

Yes, it's MTP with my current phone and linux installation. Is there a problem with this? After I figured out where the filesystem was mounted (a bit of a pain), I could use it like a normal mount, as if it were an external USB drive.

MTP is a bit of a mess.

First off, file access is mediated via software on the Android side. What you are seeing is a database representation of the device FS. And this database can be incorrect (people have in the past deleted folders they thought were empty only to lose files) or used to implement DRM.

Second, it is bloody slow.

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Post by Esau »

RussianCow wrote: post #149
ryan-allen wrote: post #118

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You should try Windows 10, I've been Apple free for a while now. I'll never go back to OS X.

I don't know if I'm alone, but I find Windows 10 horrible. It consistently freezes on me for several seconds at a time (and usually when I'm doing something important), it takes longer to fully boot (background services seem to take way longer to start), it uses an incredible amount of CPU and disk in the background for no reason, the new Control Panel is impossible to sort through, and the overall UI/UX is a step ba…

"amount of CPU and disk in the background for no reason"

That's probably from the built-in spyware and forced upgrade processes that run in the background.

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Post by rsync »

wlesieutre wrote: post #286
Karunamon wrote: post #260

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Did something change? Because the iTunes internal organization for music at least is quite easy to understand. From the library folder: Music/Artist/Album/Track# Title.ext If your files aren't tagged correctly (which is distressingly common), then the auto organization will make a pig's breakfast of your library. A common example: "Artist" and "Album Artist" are two different ID3 fields - if you have an album with an…

A complaint I've heard before is that this works fine for most modern music, but the Artist/Album/Track layout doesn't apply to a lot of classical collections. In which case you can just turn off the folder organization, but there's not an easy way to undo it once iTunes has gone and dicked it up.

"A complaint I've heard before is that this works fine for most modern music, but the Artist/Album/Track layout doesn't apply to a lot of classical collections."

More importantly, and more generally: what if my music organization format predates OSX/iOS/iTunes and I am not interested in altering it for todays fad ?

This is not apple-specific, either - many devices and services (audi MMI, Sonos, etc.) assume certain naming and organizational practices - and work very awkwardly with any other layout.

Granted, my Sonos system has never deleted anything or reorganized directories ... but my music is mounted read-only just in case.

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