So, like... Is this a thing now?
I guess... I'll be the new Satoshi?
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#133It's amazing to me how everyone is drinking the koolaid here on him being a fraud. I really don't think Gavin got duped. And I'm pretty sure they had enough private email discussions over the years that there were things they discussed/shared privately over those years that could be used as a reference point for Gavin to be sure he was talking to the same person. People are more willing to believe that Gavin was hacked or suddenly forgot how bitcoin worked.
I understand the technical proofs put forth have been spurious. I wouldn't be surprised if Craig had an under-qualified underlying who didn't really understand what they were doing who was responsible for some of that. People are forgetting the human part of this equation though. His interviews with the BBC don't strike me at all as someone looking to cash in. I think he is a bit of narcissist and wants to claim some credit for inventing bitcoin, but I also see a very deep fear of being in the public eye that comes through as well. Perhaps because he has done quite a few things he's not proud of and doesn't want to have people publicizing those. But the idea that he's a scammer looking to cash in here just play doesn't out at all. What's the end game? Where's the pile of money he's after? People aren't thinking through the motivations here thoroughly enough. He's risking quite a lot by doing this with the absolute certainty that he would be found out if he was a fraud. You could say maybe he's an idiot and doesn't understand that. No one could watch that interview though and believe the man isn't intelligent though. Why talk about the negotiations with Australian tax authorities when those authorities could very easily come and say that he was lying. None of this makes any sense from the scam angle. There has to be something else going on here.
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#134If he is not Satoshi and just wanted the attention: Narcissists have an incredible high rate of suicide, because when they fall from their high horse, the floor is quite some way down and the landing is too hard for them. Rather than being found out as fake, go with a bang... I fear the bang coming... This note kind of worries me a little bit... no matter what he did wrong, I hope he will be okay.
The "And goodbye" was a little ominous.
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#135I believe the guy is Satoshi. People were expecting the next Jesus Christ and now everyone's so disappointed that "Satoshi" is just an average geek with human weaknesses - not the messiah everyone expected. Had he started a Unicorn startup, nobody would have even thought to question it, but now that the myth of Satoshi has been blown to astronomic proportions, people refuse to believe that their guru is just a "simpl…
now everyone's so disappointed that "Satoshi" is just an average geek with He doesn't seem "an average geek." He is very smooth-talking and glad-handing. He also looks much more like the sales people than the technical people at all my places of employment.
... Who also happens to be a cryptographer and a programmer (at least according to the subject matter on his blog )..
He also managed to "sweet talk" and convince Gavin Andersen and others that he's for real...
I don't know. I cannot base my conclusion on opinions on what the Internet is saying. The noise level and the emotions are too high to make sense of it.
I've watched his interview, I've listened to what he said.
The man looks like he's serious and angry about everything... he also said that he will refuse any kind of award for it.
Being the inventor of Bitcoin is also a huge burden and risk so it's not easy what this man is going through..
At least in theory, that man can be Satoshi and my intuition tells me that he probably is, there's nothing more to it.
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#136It comes as a surprise to me that this is too close to religion. Some trustworthy people saw Jesus, God and the miracles. Some people did not believe and some people might have claimed that it was fake. But most people believed it anyway, and it's still believed by a big number of people to date.
Some people were deceived by a con artist named Wright. When he was called on it, he made a bunch of people think he was going to die soon, and made a bunch of other people feel marginally guilty for questioning his authenticity. Now, despite overwhelming evidence of trickery, despite perfect proof of his claims being trivially easy to create, there are still people in this very thread who think he's genuine. And probably will be for years to come, since those who believe him and defended him are emotionally invested in it, and those who disbelieve him will have ceased thinking about this embarrassing debacle a year from now.
Yes, it's a pretty good analogy.
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#137It's amazing to me how everyone is drinking the koolaid here on him being a fraud. I really don't think Gavin got duped. And I'm pretty sure they had enough private email discussions over the years that there were things they discussed/shared privately over those years that could be used as a reference point for Gavin to be sure he was talking to the same person. People are more willing to believe that Gavin was hack…
He's actually Batman and just not telling us.
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#138All this ruckus because people dislike others being wrongly credited. Well, so what if he gets a cult following? So what if a portion of people want to believe something without empirical evidence?
Not like it hasn't ever happened before. And it will continue to happen no matter how many call bullshit.
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#139He had promised to do the impossible -- cryptographically prove he had access to early coins which he did not in fact have. He had carefully developed two scam-proofs of this. One scam proof was deployed on his blog where he claimed to sign a Sartre text with a key from bitcoin block 9. He carefully did not give the exact input text, only a supposed hash of the text. The hope was anyone trying to replicate would assu…
I had not cared that much about this, but his actions are exactly what I would have expected from bitcoin's creator. There are some guys who simply do not want to be found. The guy who created Bitcoin is one of them. Making things develop like this simultaneously repairs much of the damage to his anonymity while minimizing the damage to the two guys who put their reputations on the line for him. By acting the way tha…
You are being downvoted because your statements simultaneously conflict and support themselves.
As for honor, if the creator of Bitcoin exists as a single entity then it's about time for them to stand up and take some responsibility in the disaster that is the Bitcoin community. Creating something so important and then leaving town is immature, illogical and down right annoying.
While I'm at it, fuck you Satoshi.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had not cared that much about this, but his actions are exactly what I would have expected from bitcoin's creator. There are some guys who simply do not want to be found. The guy who created Bitcoin is one of them. Making things develop like this simultaneously repairs much of the damage to his anonymity while minimizing the damage to the two guys who put their reputations on the line for him. By acting the way tha…
You are being downvoted because your statements simultaneously conflict and support themselves. As for honor, if the creator of Bitcoin exists as a single entity then it's about time for them to stand up and take some responsibility in the disaster that is the Bitcoin community. Creating something so important and then leaving town is immature, illogical and down right annoying. While I'm at it, fuck you Satoshi.
> As for honor, if the creator of Bitcoin exists as a single entity then it's about time for them to stand up and take some responsibility in the disaster that is the Bitcoin community. Creating something so important and then leaving town is immature, illogical and down right annoying.
Satoshi is not responsible for the Bitcoin community any more than he is responsible for the quality of this Hacker News comment you've just written. I understand the annoyance of not knowing who Satoshi is, but he/she/they doesn't owe us anything.