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Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by headgasket »

gtrubetskoy wrote: post #14

My (non-provable) theory is that Satoshi is not a person but a team, now defunct, that was tasked with developing a crypto-currency. They are probably more scientists/mathematicians/economists than they are software developers, which would explain the very sound but not exactly elegant initial code. It would also explain the silence - the project is over, the team is probably bound to secrecy because this stuff is cl…

an alt-schyzo-personality of John Nash. He probably lost access to the blocks due to the sickness.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by nsajko »

sktrdie wrote: post #37
spdustin wrote: post #19

Okay seriously, is anyone contacting the authorities to see if this man is still alive? I do not know who to contact or what his location is. His "blog" post sounds like a suicide note - I've had the misfortune of reading others, and there are telltale signs - and it doesn't appear that anyone is taking steps to see if he's okay. Maybe he is a liar, maybe he's Satoshi, who gives a shit at this point when the jaded co…

I understand this, but there's also the dimension where his actions, whether true or not, are also damaging other people (Gavin's reputation is on the line). We'd all be more worried for him if he wasn't so blatantly causing harm to other people's reputation. Obviously he could suffer from severe mental illness, which combines elements of harming others and self harm, but as a society I think we should worry more abo…

Andresen (and Matonis) themselves should be considered responsible for the harm to their own reputations no?

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by nsajko »

sktrdie wrote: post #37
spdustin wrote: post #19

Okay seriously, is anyone contacting the authorities to see if this man is still alive? I do not know who to contact or what his location is. His "blog" post sounds like a suicide note - I've had the misfortune of reading others, and there are telltale signs - and it doesn't appear that anyone is taking steps to see if he's okay. Maybe he is a liar, maybe he's Satoshi, who gives a shit at this point when the jaded co…

I understand this, but there's also the dimension where his actions, whether true or not, are also damaging other people (Gavin's reputation is on the line). We'd all be more worried for him if he wasn't so blatantly causing harm to other people's reputation. Obviously he could suffer from severe mental illness, which combines elements of harming others and self harm, but as a society I think we should worry more abo…

Andresen (and Matonis) themselves should be considered responsible for the harm to their own reputations no?

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by Mtinie »

cookiecaper wrote: post #83
gtrubetskoy wrote: post #14

My (non-provable) theory is that Satoshi is not a person but a team, now defunct, that was tasked with developing a crypto-currency. They are probably more scientists/mathematicians/economists than they are software developers, which would explain the very sound but not exactly elegant initial code. It would also explain the silence - the project is over, the team is probably bound to secrecy because this stuff is cl…

If being considered Satoshi ruined some other guy's life too, isn't Wright's claim that he is Satoshi but he just chickened out of irrefutably proving it semi-plausible?

Dorian wasn't given the choice. He didn't announce that he was Satoshi but had the mantle thrust upon him by the media.

Mr. Wright made his claims but now is unable to prove them beyond a reasonable doubt.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by jnbiche »

Lxr wrote: post #76
spdustin wrote: post #19

Okay seriously, is anyone contacting the authorities to see if this man is still alive? I do not know who to contact or what his location is. His "blog" post sounds like a suicide note - I've had the misfortune of reading others, and there are telltale signs - and it doesn't appear that anyone is taking steps to see if he's okay. Maybe he is a liar, maybe he's Satoshi, who gives a shit at this point when the jaded co…

Sometime between this being posted and now he has changed the homepage from an image to HTML, so I'm betting he's alive.

He realized the image wouldn't be indexed by Google, I'd imagine.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by jnbiche »

spdustin wrote: post #19

Okay seriously, is anyone contacting the authorities to see if this man is still alive? I do not know who to contact or what his location is. His "blog" post sounds like a suicide note - I've had the misfortune of reading others, and there are telltale signs - and it doesn't appear that anyone is taking steps to see if he's okay. Maybe he is a liar, maybe he's Satoshi, who gives a shit at this point when the jaded co…

Sadly, this type of behavior is also the hallmark of a master manipulator. Given his track record of deceit upon deceit (lied about PhD as confirmed by university, lied about supercomputer as confirmed by SGI, got caught backdating PGP key, multiple acquaintances in Australia on record about his sketchy business practices, etc. etc), I'd guess that the emotion here is significantly less than genuine.

That said, I agree that if I knew the man, or had any idea where he is then I'd feel compelled to check in on him. But it sounds like people have checked in on him and he's OK [1].

But I'm guessing it's just more showmanship and more attempts to distract from the fact that he has no proof he's who he's claiming to be.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11636144

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by BinaryResult »

Finnucane wrote: post #51
bitJericho wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitcoins can only be distributed if you have the private key for it. If satoshi dies and leaves the keys for his heirs, then its just a normal asset. If the keys are gone, then that money is unrecoverable, just like burning cash.

So Bitcoin could conceivably be 'burned' faster than new bitcoin can be made. That might be great for a collector's market, but sounds like a bad plan for a useful currency.

Bitcoin is infinitely divisible, if a bitcoin is lost forever the remaining bitcoin just increase in value.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by bitmapbrother »

I suggested this from the start. A simple transaction from Satoshi's account to an agreed upon 3rd party is all that would have been needed to prove his claims. Claiming to not have the "courage" to perform this simple verification is just ridiculous.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Post by headgasket »

benmmurphy wrote: post #79
numair wrote: post #12

It is interesting to note that the only Satoshi-existence scenario whose probability improves with each passing day, is the scenario in which Satoshi / the "Satoshis" is/are dead (unless you think Bitcoin was the first great invention of hyper-advanced AI, of course). Figuring out whether anyone actually knows who Satoshi is/was becomes more interesting than waiting for the person(s) to show up, because it will never…

it could also be that gavin/jon are satoshi or know who satoshi is and went along with the scam so no-one would think they know who satoshi is.

or that Craig Wright is the real Satoshi, and want to establish to everyone that he's not to keep the huge btc stash from the Ozzie taxman...
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