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Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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It is interesting to note that the only Satoshi-existence scenario whose probability improves with each passing day, is the scenario in which Satoshi / the "Satoshis" is/are dead (unless you think Bitcoin was the first great invention of hyper-advanced AI, of course). Figuring out whether anyone actually knows who Satoshi is/was becomes more interesting than waiting for the person(s) to show up, because it will never…

If Satoshi is dead or not an individual person, then who owns his bitcoin? If Satoshi is dead, then his property would be subject to the probate laws of his home country. Can the bitcoin of a dead person be recovered if they don't make arrangements for it in their will? Or will blocks of bitcoin become inactive over time as their owners die?

These are some great questions. Given a long enough timeline, it's possible (probable?) that nearly all private keys will be lost. It's funny that Bitcoin seems to have built into it its own demise: mortal people.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

#42
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The only time Satoshi spoke out was to help the poor bloke who was mistaken to be Satoshi no, the forum account was hacked to make that claim. It wasn't by Satoshi.

Source for this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0

Discussion at the time: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zrshb/real_satosh...

The consensus is that it was not from the real Satoshi.

In fact the reaction to that forum post are the same as the reaction to CSW's claims: Sign it or it's worthless.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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post #12

It is interesting to note that the only Satoshi-existence scenario whose probability improves with each passing day, is the scenario in which Satoshi / the "Satoshis" is/are dead (unless you think Bitcoin was the first great invention of hyper-advanced AI, of course). Figuring out whether anyone actually knows who Satoshi is/was becomes more interesting than waiting for the person(s) to show up, because it will never…

If Satoshi is dead or not an individual person, then who owns his bitcoin? If Satoshi is dead, then his property would be subject to the probate laws of his home country. Can the bitcoin of a dead person be recovered if they don't make arrangements for it in their will? Or will blocks of bitcoin become inactive over time as their owners die?

The coins belong to whoever (one or more) has the key.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

#47
post #37

Okay seriously, is anyone contacting the authorities to see if this man is still alive? I do not know who to contact or what his location is. His "blog" post sounds like a suicide note - I've had the misfortune of reading others, and there are telltale signs - and it doesn't appear that anyone is taking steps to see if he's okay. Maybe he is a liar, maybe he's Satoshi, who gives a shit at this point when the jaded co…

I understand this, but there's also the dimension where his actions, whether true or not, are also damaging other people (Gavin's reputation is on the line). We'd all be more worried for him if he wasn't so blatantly causing harm to other people's reputation. Obviously he could suffer from severe mental illness, which combines elements of harming others and self harm, but as a society I think we should worry more abo…

No, that's a horrible thought. If he truly is suicidal we should be doing what we can to make sure he is cared for.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

#49
post #37

Okay seriously, is anyone contacting the authorities to see if this man is still alive? I do not know who to contact or what his location is. His "blog" post sounds like a suicide note - I've had the misfortune of reading others, and there are telltale signs - and it doesn't appear that anyone is taking steps to see if he's okay. Maybe he is a liar, maybe he's Satoshi, who gives a shit at this point when the jaded co…

I understand this, but there's also the dimension where his actions, whether true or not, are also damaging other people (Gavin's reputation is on the line). We'd all be more worried for him if he wasn't so blatantly causing harm to other people's reputation. Obviously he could suffer from severe mental illness, which combines elements of harming others and self harm, but as a society I think we should worry more abo…

@bwilliams, yep, and that's why I said "I understand this". We should help him. But we should also help, if not more, Gavin and the others who's reputation is on the line without much fault of their own.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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post #49
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand this, but there's also the dimension where his actions, whether true or not, are also damaging other people (Gavin's reputation is on the line). We'd all be more worried for him if he wasn't so blatantly causing harm to other people's reputation. Obviously he could suffer from severe mental illness, which combines elements of harming others and self harm, but as a society I think we should worry more abo…

@bwilliams, yep, and that's why I said "I understand this". We should help him. But we should also help, if not more, Gavin and the others who's reputation is on the line without much fault of their own.

Why not handle the the thing that seems to be pretty pressing right now instead? Reputation can wait until someone can confirm one thing or another. It's just kind of calloused otherwise and I'm sure someone whose reputation on the line would agree.
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