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Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by SyneRyder » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:48 PM UTC

junto wrote: post #48

SyneRyder wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine their thinking (as flawed as it is) is that it frees up local disk space for the user. If you've got a base level MacBook Air with just a 128GB SSD, maybe it seems beneficial to have a 40GB iTunes library stored entirely in the cloud on demand, and suddenly have 30% disk space freed up. Apple have a similar philosophy with Photos, where the photos on your device are just low resolution versions, with the or…

I'd seriously been considering a Macbook, for home use, mainly due to the iPhoto app, since on Windows there is only Google Picasa, and they've killed it. If there anyway to turn off that syncing and keep files locally only? Your comments have made me rethink my upcoming purchase!

ar0 is correct, it's now the default option. (I think at the beginning of the Photos beta it was the opposite.) To be super sure, you might want to double check your settings, Macworld has a how to guide here:

http://www.macworld.com/article/2955637/software-photography...

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by ghusbands » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:48 PM UTC

gp7 wrote: post #45

wavs having "more samples" is a new one to me. Neat.

It could easily be true, if the wav is recorded at greater than 44.1kHz. However, the author probably meant to say "more data", as the wavs will have been (lossless) PCM.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by april1stislame » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:49 PM UTC

fpgeek wrote: post #72

buro9 wrote: post #24

It's worth noting that Google Photos actually does something similar... the photos are "backed up" even in their "original" form... but I don't believe it's possible to actually restore (download all) from Google Photos. I thankfully have a local backup of the photos I took, but when a phrase like "backup" is used, it is implicit and understood that there is a "restore" mechanism. Google Photos lacks a "restore" mech…

There is an important difference. Google is transparent about what is going on. When I set up Google Photos I was asked: Do you want to use Google's high quality or do you want to preserve the original photos and have them count against your storage quota? After that, you should know what you're getting into. I certainly did.

Google's high quality... That's some deceiving wording right there. High quality are the originals, those are at the maximum optimized.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by ghusbands » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:50 PM UTC

firegrind wrote: post #62

I'm surprised that it's not the re-encoding of the victim's compositions that grab this headline. Could I copyright a piece of unpublished music, then use the converted copy to show a case against Apple for copyright infringement ?

Under the terms and conditions for these services, you typically grant the host the right to do whatever actions they need to in order to perform the service you ask of them. So you'd be unlikely to have a case on these grounds. I am not a lawyer.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by g4z » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:51 PM UTC

exactly! every time i read about someone having a problem with something, i always check to see if my friends have had the same problem. if not, then clearly the problem doesn't exist. pri.ck

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by rtpg » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:53 PM UTC

pkorzeniewski wrote: post #99

This is ridiculous, but that's what you get by trading ownership and privacy for convenience. I keep all my music in .mp3, movies in .avi and books in .pdf, which means I can access them on any computer, using any software and I don't need to worry that one day I may loose access to them. The world is going mad, I wonder when (or if) people will realise how much control over their stuff is in 3rd party hands, and it'…

I have my photos on Google and have easy access.

More importantly for me, no matter what happens to my devices I will have some form of backup. This is miles better than the default for people even 5 years ago. You have to try really hard to lose data now! Well, so long as you're not picky about the file size....

Granted Google has the keys to my kingdom. I have things like Backblaze but...

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by colin_jack » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:53 PM UTC

rossng wrote: post #74

Every time I am asked to set up someone's Apple device, I find it incredibly difficult to: * Get it synced properly * Determine what is stored in iCloud/on-device * Ensure that device contents are actually backed-up, unless done manually * Set up simple things like email accounts Just a month or two ago, I was helping someone whose iTunes music wouldn't sync to their iPhone. It turned out that, when they signed up to…

Yeah I had the exact same issue with syncing externally purchased music whilst using apple music, I honestly could not believe apple has delivered software that behaves in such a user hostile manner. It hurts their reputation and convinced me to give up on some music.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by colin_jack » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:53 PM UTC

rossng wrote: post #74

Every time I am asked to set up someone's Apple device, I find it incredibly difficult to: * Get it synced properly * Determine what is stored in iCloud/on-device * Ensure that device contents are actually backed-up, unless done manually * Set up simple things like email accounts Just a month or two ago, I was helping someone whose iTunes music wouldn't sync to their iPhone. It turned out that, when they signed up to…

Yeah I had the exact same issue with syncing externally purchased music whilst using apple music, I honestly could not believe apple has delivered software that behaves in such a user hostile manner. It hurts their reputation and convinced me to give up on some music.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by UnfalseDesign » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:54 PM UTC

fpgeek wrote: post #72

buro9 wrote: post #24

It's worth noting that Google Photos actually does something similar... the photos are "backed up" even in their "original" form... but I don't believe it's possible to actually restore (download all) from Google Photos. I thankfully have a local backup of the photos I took, but when a phrase like "backup" is used, it is implicit and understood that there is a "restore" mechanism. Google Photos lacks a "restore" mech…

There is an important difference. Google is transparent about what is going on. When I set up Google Photos I was asked: Do you want to use Google's high quality or do you want to preserve the original photos and have them count against your storage quota? After that, you should know what you're getting into. I certainly did.

Another way Google Photos is transparent is the app will actually let you know that many of the photos on your phone have been backed up to Photos. The app will ask if you would like those backed up photos to be removed from your phone. (And it'll ask you every time since it doesn't assume that if you said "yes" once then you mean "yes" every time.) So, there's no question about where your photos went when you can't find them.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by pessimizer » Thu, May 05, 2016, 12:55 PM UTC

alwaysdownvoted wrote: post #106

It is a known fact that Apple tries the same ideas more than once, sometimes years apart. If at first they fail, they will try again. I recall an idea from the past where they wanted users to disclose to them all the user's non-itunes music in return for some perceived benefit. At the time I thought of this as a way for someone at some company to assess out how much CD-ripped, Napster-shared, or other indepedently-so…

> friends sharing music, which has always been the essence of how my music collection was built (pre-digital)

I remember how excited I used to be when friends and I would drive to an out-of-town show and stay with other friends who had big record collections. You always brought a box of fresh blank tapes; and that's the same thing they'd do when they came over your house.