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Apple Stole My Music

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Re: Apple Stole My Music

#51

Post by dbalan »

misnome wrote: post #42
SunShiranui wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It highlights a very serious issue, though - an increasing number of services use all kinds of crazy DRM that only result in great inconveniences for the paying user. Compare that to the relative simplicity of having your music, books, etc. as a plain file, and you can see where the problem is: paying gets you less, rarely more.

> all kinds of crazy DRM Like? I feel that we've reached the stage where it's pretty easy to pay for digital music/streaming at this point. As far as saying that it's almost entirely easier than pirating music.

Maybe in the US - but its not outside. I've been trying to play this streaming game for now

1. Spotify - doesn't allow you to buy premium (which is availble worldwide) if you have a non-US credit card.

2. Apple Music - is available, but I use a linux laptop.

3. Rdio - shutdown.

The vast majority of preference of the the people how they enjoy their music makes put "friendliest DRM" in the leagues of Unicorns.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

#52

Post by dingo_bat »

SEMW wrote: post #41
buro9 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the phone, "freeup device storage" is an option that is prompted (and sounds like a wonderful idea)... whereby the phone copy is purged if the original file has already been "backed up" to Google. It isn't possible to restore the backup.

...And which gives you a modal warning box that starts "Heads up! This will delete n original photos and videos from your device". And will only proceed if you click an all-caps confirmation button labelled "DELETE".[0] That's hardly comparable to Apple deleting things automatically, silently, with neither warning nor confirmation. [0] http://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/themes/ap2/ap_resize...

Even with the warning, people assume that backup means they aren't losing anything, and can get back the original pics whenever they like. In fact, image data is being lost here. You can never get back your original photos, only highly compressed smaller sized JPGs that will look OK on a mobile screen.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

#54

Post by gldalmaso »

buro9 wrote: post #37
nasduia wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not just download all the photos through google drive in bulk?

I looked, whilst photos appears as a folder in drive, there is no option to "download all", and it would require me to load them into the browser view, select them, and then choose to download them. For reference, I have 125GB of photos since 1994 in there... it would take a very long time to select them all.

You can install Google Drive Desktop and sync them to your computer all at once.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

#55

Post by errantspark »

misnome wrote: post #42
SunShiranui wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It highlights a very serious issue, though - an increasing number of services use all kinds of crazy DRM that only result in great inconveniences for the paying user. Compare that to the relative simplicity of having your music, books, etc. as a plain file, and you can see where the problem is: paying gets you less, rarely more.

> all kinds of crazy DRM Like? I feel that we've reached the stage where it's pretty easy to pay for digital music/streaming at this point. As far as saying that it's almost entirely easier than pirating music.

When you stream music/buy from iTunes you have to deal with drm, latency, shitty software that can't easily be customized, stream drops, data charges, needing to be on the internet.

When you pirate music it's the same as searching spotify, except you click download instead of play and you get files that work forever on any device. Storage smaller than your fingernail fits a straight month worth of music for $20 and works just as well if you're in the mountains as when you're on the train to work.

It's a faaaaar nicer user experience.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

#56

Post by tehmaco »

buro9 wrote: post #37
nasduia wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not just download all the photos through google drive in bulk?

I looked, whilst photos appears as a folder in drive, there is no option to "download all", and it would require me to load them into the browser view, select them, and then choose to download them. For reference, I have 125GB of photos since 1994 in there... it would take a very long time to select them all.

Could you use the Google Drive program and then sync that folder to your local machine?

Re: Apple Stole My Music

#57

Post by lake99 »

coderdude wrote: post #14
yedpodtrzitko wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me paraphrase it - if there's a dozen of streaming services, and one of them does misbehaves, it gives you a reason to pirate? That's a really poor excuse (or if that's a joke, then it's a poor one too).

You're basically trying to reason with a troll comment about pirating. They don't need 5 billion reasons. There's only one. It's free.

> It's free.

Even that, by itself, is not one reason. Look at https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/free. Meanings [1-4,6] are very common reasons to pirate stuff. [5] is kinda minor, depending on how much money you have.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

#58

Post by ar0 »

junto wrote: post #48
SyneRyder wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine their thinking (as flawed as it is) is that it frees up local disk space for the user. If you've got a base level MacBook Air with just a 128GB SSD, maybe it seems beneficial to have a 40GB iTunes library stored entirely in the cloud on demand, and suddenly have 30% disk space freed up. Apple have a similar philosophy with Photos, where the photos on your device are just low resolution versions, with the or…

I'd seriously been considering a Macbook, for home use, mainly due to the iPhoto app, since on Windows there is only Google Picasa, and they've killed it. If there anyway to turn off that syncing and keep files locally only? Your comments have made me rethink my upcoming purchase!

Yes, that is absolutely possible. In fact, it is the default option, you explicitly need to enable both "iCloud Photo Library" (which activates your photos being stored on iCloud) and "Optimize Mac Storage" (which deletes the full-resolution photos from your Mac).

This is exactly how it should be, and how apparently it is not for Apple Music. At least this is true for today, who knows whether what is optional today might become the only option tomorrow...

Re: Apple Stole My Music

#59

Post by [deleted] »

dingo_bat wrote: post #52
SEMW wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...And which gives you a modal warning box that starts "Heads up! This will delete n original photos and videos from your device". And will only proceed if you click an all-caps confirmation button labelled "DELETE".[0] That's hardly comparable to Apple deleting things automatically, silently, with neither warning nor confirmation. [0] http://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/themes/ap2/ap_resize...

Even with the warning, people assume that backup means they aren't losing anything, and can get back the original pics whenever they like. In fact, image data is being lost here. You can never get back your original photos, only highly compressed smaller sized JPGs that will look OK on a mobile screen.

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Re: Apple Stole My Music

#60

Post by ikeboy »

dingo_bat wrote: post #52
SEMW wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...And which gives you a modal warning box that starts "Heads up! This will delete n original photos and videos from your device". And will only proceed if you click an all-caps confirmation button labelled "DELETE".[0] That's hardly comparable to Apple deleting things automatically, silently, with neither warning nor confirmation. [0] http://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/themes/ap2/ap_resize...

Even with the warning, people assume that backup means they aren't losing anything, and can get back the original pics whenever they like. In fact, image data is being lost here. You can never get back your original photos, only highly compressed smaller sized JPGs that will look OK on a mobile screen.

You can choose whether to backup converted photos or originals.
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