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Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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It shouldn't have been a problem in the first place. In many cities, you cannot access the driver's portion of a taxicab. Yet airplanes had less separation. Pilots should never give controls over, and there should be strong, locked, doors. The lack of toilet sorta ruins the whole design. There's still a critical window where the door is open to the cabin, even though blocked by a food cart. But I suppose you'd need t…

> Pilots should never give controls over, and there should be strong, locked, doors. They have that now; it resulted in a pilot deliberately crashing his own plane into the ground while the co-pilot banged futilely on the door outside. [0] Unintended consequences and all that. [0] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/1149...

It's absolutely unrelated matters. There always was a possibility for one pilot to barricade in the cabin. And in any case, he could just bash his co-pilot with something and do whatever he wants. If you got pilot who wants to crash the plane on board, you already screwed up, good thing it's very rare occasion.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Exactly. The goal of a terrorist isn't to "blow up an airplane" per-se, it's to, well, cause terror. The TSA lines do NOTHING to fix the problem, they only move the problem. Any terrorist with half a brain can see that you now just blow your bomb up in the security line. So what do you do, put a security checkpoint in front of the security checkpoint? It's TSA checkpoints all the way down...

> The TSA lines do NOTHING to fix the problem, they only move the problem. Detonating a makeshift suitcase bomb in a security line, you'd be lucky to kill 10 people. Crashing an airliner in the proper fashion, you can kill hundreds or thousands.

You can't crash airliner because you can't get into cabin anymore. So most terrorists can do is kill everyone on board, which is the same as to blow a bomb elsewhere (you underestimated potential harm of bomb in security line), and they already are doing that. So those rigorous checkings in airports only hurt normal people, and do nothing for security.
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