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Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Post by pjmlp »

nailer wrote: post #73
pjmlp wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just try to get Google or Apple OSes documentation. MSDN is the best documentation I ever seen from OS vendors. Not to mention the mainframe, commercial UNIX and embedded real time OSes, even worse than those mentioned above.

redhat.com/docs and (back when Sun was a thing) docs.sun.com were great.

Where is the Red Hat documentation about the programming languages, respective libraries and IDEs delivered in a Red Hat ISO?

This one looks very poor versus MSDN content.

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterp...

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Post by hvidgaard »

rtpg wrote: post #46
mavhc wrote: post #34

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Situation: There are 14 competing information stores. 14?! Ridiculous! We need to develop one universal store that covers everyone's use cases. Situation: There are 15 competing information stores.

Solution: Move things over from one into the blessed solution, and then kill the other one. Repeat as necessary. Accept that nothing will cover 100% Sometimes you have to push to fix the process

You always have to push to make changes like this. You have to allocate ressources to migrate, and while it may save money in the long run, not all management people understand or want to pay for it.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Post by tgb »

pandler wrote: post #8
sz4kerto wrote: post #3

Oh no. It pops up a quick menu when I select text, like Medium. The problem is that I'm constantly selecting the lines I'm reading. :( Edit: Also, it's extremely narrow. On my 32" 4K display, 70% of the screen is empty. And the font is too think. And stuff keeps moving/jumping when I'm moving the mouse cursor. I want 1998 back.

> The problem is that I'm constantly selecting the lines I'm reading I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one! I compulsively select random blocks of text: select up, select down, repeat. I definitely get annoyed with the popup-menu-on-select feature of Medium, but I feel I can hardly blame Medium for my random, compulsive habit.

So what do you guys think of HN? I get frustrated by how if I drag the selection down on HN comments, the selection will "hop" up at certain points. It's very aesthetically unpleasing, but I just need to click and drag select whatever I'm reading.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Post by chiph »

cm3 wrote: post #4
sz4kerto wrote: post #3

Oh no. It pops up a quick menu when I select text, like Medium. The problem is that I'm constantly selecting the lines I'm reading. :( Edit: Also, it's extremely narrow. On my 32" 4K display, 70% of the screen is empty. And the font is too think. And stuff keeps moving/jumping when I'm moving the mouse cursor. I want 1998 back.

If it were 100% wide on 4K, how would your eyes scan the text? It's useful for illustrations (graphics), but I haven't met a person yet who can read wide text as efficiently as one or more narrow columns.

I resize the window down to where it's more comfortable to read.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Post by Jedd »

tallanvor wrote: post #71
Jedd wrote: post #20

At $DAY_JOB we have various document (or rather, knowledge) repositories -- a mostly-abandoned-but-still-useful-often-enough-to-not-ignore wiki, the obligatory but overwhelming salesforce, personal (silo) collections of email lists/archives, a semi-public knowledge base, a half-hearted attempt at moving internal mail lists into yammer, various product guides (PDF's), a public-access user forum, an LMS, and probably a…

A lot of companies do use SharePoint that way (including Microsoft), they just heavily modify the look, and in some cases (Microsoft kb articles, as an example) have publishing flows to export static pages to be cached by CDNs.

I don't doubt some do this - I don't know how you'd tell from looking at a (heavily skinned) site. But it sounds like MS hasn't done this here - they've designed and built a new documentation repository.

More power to them, btw. Most (HN) people's complaints sound fairly cosmetic - easy enough to adjust. Sensible URL's are probably worth the cost of conversion alone. But my point is/was that this doesn't appear to be a re-skinning of Sharepoint - it looks like (yet another) bespoke DMS.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Post by flatline »

sz4kerto wrote: post #3

Oh no. It pops up a quick menu when I select text, like Medium. The problem is that I'm constantly selecting the lines I'm reading. :( Edit: Also, it's extremely narrow. On my 32" 4K display, 70% of the screen is empty. And the font is too think. And stuff keeps moving/jumping when I'm moving the mouse cursor. I want 1998 back.

The icon for adding a comment to a paragraph when there is none also causes the rest of the page text to reflow. If this is a preview of what's to come, they've migrated to a 2016 appearance and brought along all the clunkiness of the old MSDN. Kudos.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Post by jbb555 »

sz4kerto wrote: post #3

Oh no. It pops up a quick menu when I select text, like Medium. The problem is that I'm constantly selecting the lines I'm reading. :( Edit: Also, it's extremely narrow. On my 32" 4K display, 70% of the screen is empty. And the font is too think. And stuff keeps moving/jumping when I'm moving the mouse cursor. I want 1998 back.

There seems to be some plan to use less and less of the screen. I keep looking at wordpress templates and almost all of them want to use about 1/8th of my screen width which is terrible
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