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The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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Its SEO/Click-bait 101 unfortunately. It is sensationalisation of something to make it sound more interesting. Next it will be "See what crazy change to solar made energy purchasers sit up pay attention!"

But can it be improved with a "just?" "See what crazy change to solar just made energy purchasers sit up and pay attention!"

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Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its SEO/Click-bait 101 unfortunately. It is sensationalisation of something to make it sound more interesting. Next it will be "See what crazy change to solar made energy purchasers sit up pay attention!"

But can it be improved with a "just?" "See what crazy change to solar just made energy purchasers sit up and pay attention!"

You clearly have a fantastically lucrative career in annoying-headline-writing ahead of you.

Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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And here in the USA some states are punishing solar customers who sell their energy, by taxing them on infrastructure costs, to protect the big energy companies. Their reasoning for taxing them is to "maintain the lines and equipment". The counter-argument to that is, "customers who consume pay taxes and fee's to maintain the lines, and on top of that, the government is giving them tax breaks to help "maintain the li…

The solution to this is to bill people separately for fixed transmission & distribution infrastructure, capacity, and electricity used. Ideally electricity used and fed back into the grid would both be constantly re-priced as well to reflect supply and demand.

FYI - most regional utilities in the US are publicly owned, not private, so I'm not sure who "the big energy companies" are.

Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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Maybe people like fresh things? Here's an A/B test I recently ran on some notification messages. There were two messages, only difference is the word "new" in there. A: "You received a message from the admins about your Facebook page." B: "You received a new message from the admins about your Facebook page." A clickthrough 15.64%, B clickthrough 15.95%. About 1000 samples per group. Not sure if noise.

https://www.mccallum-layton.co.uk/tools/statistic-calculator... Sample Size: 1000 Observed Proportion: 15.64% Confidence Level: 95% Confidence Interval: ±2.25 Range for the true population proportion: 13.39% to 17.89% It's noise.

Hmm, I tried playing around with this tool.

When I enter 250000 in sample size I get ranges that don't overlap. Does that mean I would need that many samples to answer this?

Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

#75
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its SEO/Click-bait 101 unfortunately. It is sensationalisation of something to make it sound more interesting. Next it will be "See what crazy change to solar made energy purchasers sit up pay attention!"

But can it be improved with a "just?" "See what crazy change to solar just made energy purchasers sit up and pay attention!"

"You won't believe these 3 changes that just made energy purchasers sit up and pay attention!"

Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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For farms that are too hot, a possibility might be that they'd be able to alternate crops with solar panels, and it would shorten the day's sun when the crops are in the shadow of the panels.

Solar panels might get in the way of them using their farm equipment if they're close together.

If you completely ignore repairing and paying for the automation you hypothetically could build a farm where the solar panels were on arms that would pull them out of the way of the tractors/combines or whatever.

Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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This might seem like a weird thing to complain about, but am I the only person who is sick to death of headlines of the form "X just did Y"? It's the "just" I object to. It seems to be some sort of trend over the last couple of years. I think it's to make it seem more dramatic or something. It just happened! My god! In this case it is especially ridiculous, since the article describes something that happened over the…

Its SEO/Click-bait 101 unfortunately. It is sensationalisation of something to make it sound more interesting. Next it will be "See what crazy change to solar made energy purchasers sit up pay attention!"

> Next it will be "See what crazy change to solar made energy purchasers sit up pay attention!"

That is _much_ worse, and I refuse to click on any link with that sort of headline because it's guaranteed to be more ads than content.

At least with the original headline I have an idea the topic is solar, and the news is the price falling significantly. Honestly I don't see the problem with the original headline.

Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

#78

This might seem like a weird thing to complain about, but am I the only person who is sick to death of headlines of the form "X just did Y"? It's the "just" I object to. It seems to be some sort of trend over the last couple of years. I think it's to make it seem more dramatic or something. It just happened! My god! In this case it is especially ridiculous, since the article describes something that happened over the…

Yeah, I hate it. Vote with your clicks and never touch those headlines.

Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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Is this not just a symptom of oil prices dropping? Solar has to remain competitively priced or the industry is screwed

I'd guess that the profit margins were minimal before oil price drop, so lower demand for solar should not result in producers lowering their margins.

But perhaps the inputs for manufacturing solar energy are dependent on oil price (transportation etc.).

Re: The price of solar power just fell 50% in 16 months

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post #48

And here in the USA some states are punishing solar customers who sell their energy, by taxing them on infrastructure costs, to protect the big energy companies. Their reasoning for taxing them is to "maintain the lines and equipment". The counter-argument to that is, "customers who consume pay taxes and fee's to maintain the lines, and on top of that, the government is giving them tax breaks to help "maintain the li…

My gf is an electromechanical engineer at a solar power startup (and obviously supportive of solar power initiatives).

Just asked her about this, and she said that: 1) the electrical grid wasn't designed for transferring power this way, and it can damage the grid 2) because solar power isn't a constant power source (say, a cloud blocks the sun for a minute), power companies need to keep power available for someone who's using solar. The amount of this is dictated by their peak power usage. May not seem like a big thing, but as more and more people switch to solar, they suddenly need to hold massive amounts of power, as disruptions can affect people in entire regions.

Then she started getting heavy into the physics of reactive power and my brain stopped working T_T

Anyways, there's a reason that they're charging fees for solar usage. You're using their electrical grid, and it costs money to maintain it and improve it to handle some of the new challenges of solar power.

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